God : Competition? Huh. OK, let's have a "competition"...
Just funnin'... : )
Posted on 06/07/2007 11:24:50 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
A scientist is poised to create the world's first man-made species, a synthetic microbe that could lead to an endless supply of biofuel.
Craig Venter, an American who cracked the human genome in 2000, has applied for a patent at more than 100 national offices to make a bacterium from laboratory-made DNA.
It is part of an effort to create designer bugs to manufacture hydrogen and biofuels, as well as absorb carbon dioxide and other harmful greenhouse gases.
DNA contains the instructions to make the proteins that build and run an organism.
The J Craig Venter Institute in Rockville, Maryland, is applying for worldwide patents on what it refers to as "Mycoplasma laboratorium". based on DNA assembled by scientists. Yesterday, Mr Venter said: "It is only an application on methods."
As for whether the world's first synthetic bug was thriving in a test tube in Rockville, all he would say was: "We are getting close."
The Venter Institute's US Patent application claims exclusive ownership of a set of essential genes and a synthetic "free-living organism that can grow and replicate" that is made using those genes.
To create the synthetic organism his team is making snippets of DNA, known as oligonucleotides or "oligos", of up to 100 letters of DNA.
To build a primitive bug, with about 500 genes in half a million letters of DNA, Mr Venter's team is stitching together blocks of 50 or so letters, then growing them in the gut bug E coli. Then they turn these many small pieces into a handful of bigger ones until eventually two pieces can be assembled into the circular genome of the new life form.
The synthetic DNA will be added to a test tube of bacteria and the team hopes that one or more microbes among the one hundred thousand million starts moving, metabolising and multiplying.
The Canadian ETC Group, which tracks developments in biotechnology, believes that this development in synthetic biology is more significant than the cloning of Dolly the sheep a decade ago.
Yesterday, an ETC spokesman, Jim Thomas, called on the world's patent offices to reject the applications.
He said: "These monopoly claims signal the start of a high-stakes commercial race to synthesise and privatise synthetic life forms. Will Venter's company become the 'Microbesoft' of synthetic biology?" A colleague, Pat Mooney, said: "For the first time, God has competition. Venter and his colleagues have breached a societal boundary, and the public hasn't even had a chance to debate the far-reaching social, ethical and environmental implications of synthetic life."
However, Mr Venter did ask a panel of experts to examine the implications of creating synthetic life. His institute convened a bioethics committee to see if its plans were likely to raise objections.
The committee, led by Mildred Cho at Stanford University, had no objections to the work but pointed out that scientists must take responsibility for any impact their new organisms had if they got out of the lab. The organisms can be designed to die as soon as they leave laboratory conditions.
Mr Venter first announced the project to build a synthetic life form in 2002. In theory, by adding functionalised synthetic DNA, the bacterium could be instructed to produce plastics, drugs or fuels.
Mr Venter's institute claims that its stripped-down microbe could be the key to cheap energy production. The patent application specifically claims an organism that can make either hydrogen or ethanol for industrial fuels. The research was partially funded by the US Department of Energy.
grey goo?
This could be the real “Ice-9” of Vonnegut’s novel, Cat’s Cradle
He was the president and founder of Celera Genomics, which was very successful. Let's not be so dramatic.
Sounds like a good novel.
Now I;m no biologist but wouldn’t there be a risk in engineering a synthetic life form and introducing it to the environment? How can they control it? What if it mutates into something harmful?
What if it IS something harmful ?
The concept of putting specialized DNA into bacteria or other cells (often, by means of viruses) in order to get certain properties or capabilities isn’t new. He could patent his method for getting his particular modified germ, and patent that germ much as a nursery patents its fruit or vegetable plants, but couldn’t prevent others from creating modified germs by other methods.
Two items:
a.) God has NO competition, but Pat Mooney has an overactive hyperbole gland.
b.) A custom-designed microbe that eats liberals while producing biofuel suitable for motor vehicles would be a true “win win” product.
ETC might want to share it royalty free with the world.
Sarc tag?
Heck, why can’t we all file for DNA patents? It would deflate the market.
I’m always in favor of competition. If God can’t compete, He’s got only Himself to blame.
I was thinking more along the lines of Michael Chrichton’s “Andromeda Strain”.
God gives two options: (1) obey; or (2) make a monstrous mockery of yourself and whatever you touch.
LOL! From your lips to God’s ears.
Funny. That’s the same two options Microsoft used to give in the second half of the 90’s.
God had the post of King of the Universe first.
If the headline makes you hopeful, why am I so frightened? I've seen "mankind" in action before. How about that Kudzu? Wonderful, eh?
He’s either got to deliver on the kinds of organisms we need or stand aside and let someone else do it.
There’s no reason to protect Him from market forces. If others can do it better and cheaper, He’s had his day, just like Henry Ford.
“God has competition.”
Famous Last Words.
Not going to pitch you inside too much, but isn’t our God bigger than DNA?
The scientific method is a gift to the fallen mankind. How man uses it is what differentiates Good from Evil.
The worry is that God is going to go the way of Katrina and the Waves — a couple of fun singles but no staying power. Once we understand DNA well enough to create designer organisms, it’s all over. It’s like the time you were first able to read TV Guide and didn’t need to trust your parents to tell you what’s on.
That would be like people claiming to be Hindus and Buddhists announcing a way to cheat karma.
In that story, the virus with impossible properties was alien. The human error was to inadvertently introduce it into the earth’s atmosphere, while its nature remained unknown. In this case we are contemplating a production of the human intellect, which seems to follow the moral pattern of Cat’s Cradle, even if the novel’s premise was based on simple physics instead of biology.
If they can make ethanol, perhaps they can make crude oil, instead.
Otherwise we wind up with a lot of idle refinery capacity and unemployed refinery and oil industry workers.
Plus we wouldn’t need to modify our vehicles. And finally we could flood the world with our synthetic crude oil, drive the price down, and harm our mortal mideast enemies.
Tinkering with the created order is nothing new. The consequences when it begins to undermine man’s own station are something else. This is like a bunch of untalented hacks taking over Hollywood by force and forcing their own TV programs on everybody.
“It is part of an effort to create designer bugs to manufacture hydrogen and biofuels, as well as absorb carbon dioxide and other harmful greenhouse gases.”
In the year 2112: “Efforts at defeating the microbe have not worked and crops continue to fail due to the cold climate, lack of CO2, and increased amounts of hydrogen in the atmosphere.”
Even such things as how the microbes in the guts of termites turn otherwise indigestible cellulose into energy for these bugs, is virtually unknown at present. This project sounds like a (pardon the specific religious reference) hail Mary pass. Being able to reproduce on large scale what happens in termite guts is likely going to take much studied research.
Exactly!
And if you’ve got a better product than Hollywood, you can sell it and ruin the competition.
Free markets are ‘da bomb.
Thank God the market for organisms is finally opening up. He’s been at it for a long time with diappointing results.
Anything which could get out and cause mischief like that, should, ethically speaking, be made as controllable as possible. As in vulnerable to dozens of completely different antibiotics.
Think what happens when the sellers become the sold.
Ahhhhh.
You’re thinking we shouldn’t make a big move like that without an exit strategy.
Hmmmm.
I grant you that’s a weighty consideration. But it’s not decisive. Look at Iraq, for example.
I for one would be a mite disappointed to see it work TOO well and find what had been our forests, gardens, and crops reduced to pools of oil where they stand, followed shortly by the suffocation of all breathing animal and human life.
Making ethanol now is cheap because yeast reproduces itself when exposed to sugar. Of course this cellulose "bug" could get loose and eat all our crops and houses, and grass, and forests, and........, well, at least the whole planet could get loaded with the ethanol they produced. We would need a bunch of Coke, or tonic or something though.
The termites do not run on ethanol, they run on sugars. But even the termite gut chemistry is a complex bit of symbiosis that hasn’t been well explicated.
“It is part of an effort to create designer bugs to manufacture hydrogen and biofuels, as well as absorb carbon dioxide and other harmful greenhouse gases.”
Hmmm. A bug that destroys or “eats” water vapor.
The Christian’s dogma was run over by the Buddist’s karma.
LOL! I’m in the presence of greatness.
A brilliant british researcher, who was tinkering with bacteria, gave us the drug resistant Staph infection that is all over the place now.
I’m not so sure they need to be actually inventing new microbes.
That’s nothing. I hear talk about an intelligent designer that’s given us far worse.
Any synthetic life form will not mutate to survive outside the controlled conditions in the lab. I am looking with great skepticism at this so called synthetic microbe, and I bet the concept will not be reality for at least 10 years. The Arabs are safe for now!
Yah. I know what you mean. I had the same reservations about Iraq.
God : Competition? Huh. OK, let's have a "competition"...
Just funnin'... : )
Patents? You mean he plans to make money on a fuel source? Shameful.
I think any benevolent creator would deign "Katrina and the Waves" just a bit spurious. Many of us are reconciled with that horrible anachronistic concept of a Divine Creator, despite (and, usually complimentary of) advances in the human condition.
What's out there isn't all going to be known in our lifetimes. It's wonderful and friggin' HUGE. As a "simple" troglodyte Believer, it's even more wondrous.
DNA is just scattered proteins. What "is" CL?
Hey, we’ve got to let humans do jobs that God Himself won’t do.
But seriously, folks, one can’t patent something that has not been “reduced to practice.” That means that you cannot just patent a cool idea. You have to make it work.
IMO, a patent should not be issued until they show a working model.
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