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Phoenix suburb struggles to deal with day laborers
KVOA ^ | 6/9/07 | ap

Posted on 06/09/2007 6:37:54 PM PDT by mdittmar

MESA, Ariz. -- Dozens of day laborers vying for one of a limited number of jobs eagerly surround vehicles as they drive up a street next to a convenience store.

It's just one of numerous roads in the Phoenix metro area popular among the laborers, many of whom are illegal immigrants. But this particular corner and another one nearby are being targeted by Mesa officials, who say it's dangerous to allow the men to congregate in high-traffic areas.

"If you were to drive and turn that corner, if you're in a pickup or an SUV or anything besides a little vehicle, they're going to swarm your car, and it's not safe," said city Councilman Kyle Jones.

Jones is leading the way to getting the council to pass an ordinance that would make it illegal for potential employers to stop and pick up day laborers along sections of two streets in Mesa. The council could hear the proposed ordinance in the next two weeks.

Jones' effort is just the latest in a battle officials in Arizona and across the country are waging against day laborers.

One Arizona proposal would have prohibited day laborers from seeking work on public streets altogether. The proposal cleared the Republican-dominated Legislature in April but was vetoed by Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano last month.

One of the bill's sponsors, Mesa Republican Rep. Russell Pearce, said he supports any effort to stop day laborers from standing on the streets, but isn't so sure Mesa's ordinance would be the best way to do that.

"I don't know why the city is playing this game," Pearce said. "Most of those folks are illegal aliens. Why don't they enforce the existing laws?"

Pearce said Mesa officers have the right to question day laborers about their immigration status because they are loitering. If the men are in the country illegally, he said they should be arrested.

Alfredo Gutierrez, a former state senator and a vocal leader in the Hispanic community, said Mesa's ordinance would create the very mess city officials are trying to clean up.

"Forcing people to go where there isn't any work is equally foolish," Gutierrez said. "They're going to get a lot less work, and so they will disperse to other parts of the community."

He said the only thing the ordinance would accomplish would be making life tougher on people who are already in "very dire circumstances."

Daniel Estrada, a 31-year-old illegal immigrant originally from Guanajuato in central Mexico, said he's been looking for work for more than a year on a street where Mesa would enforce the ordinance.

"I have bills to pay," said Estrada, who was standing near about 30 other men on a recent morning. "We're not dangerous."

Cristian Arellano, a 19-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico City who was standing with the same group, said he thinks the ordinance Mesa is considering is racist.

"They don't like us because we're Mexican," he said. "We're not hurting anyone."

But Tom Butterfly, a manager at Karl's Customs _ a repair and restoration shop next to where dozens of illegal immigrants wait for work daily _ sees it differently.

"You know, 150 guys is a problem," he said. "And then you have 150 guys with no toilet facilities and no control, and you have 150 guys who really don't have to answer to the law because they don't have ID."

Butterfly said the men are bad for business.

"The whole thing is just a crazy circus out here in the morning," he said. "Our customers will pull in and 10 guys will jump in the back of their truck. People don't want to send their wives down here ... It scares the heck out of them."

He said he's not sure if the ordinance will solve the problem, but that it could be a start.

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1 posted on 06/09/2007 6:38:00 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
let whitey get out and cut his own lawn.

as if.

2 posted on 06/09/2007 6:39:17 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: mdittmar
Oh yeah.... Mesa sucks now.

I graduated ASU in '91 and Mesa was a nice retirement town with lots of Mormons and some college kids.

I was back last December and it looked like a bomb hit it and the Mexicans were picking over the rubble....

3 posted on 06/09/2007 6:41:06 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Banning Bread and Circuses is the New Bread and Circuses....)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Same in my hometown,what use to be nice neighborhoods have gone to hell.


4 posted on 06/09/2007 6:44:12 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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This reminds me of the U-Haul rental place in Takoma Park, MD. The whole area is infested with illegals and they literally swarm your car. You keep telling them NO and they still insist on asking if you need workers. I lost count of how many I had to dodge (while driving a U-Haul) just to get out of there.
5 posted on 06/09/2007 6:45:50 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: stephenjohnbanker

ping


6 posted on 06/09/2007 6:45:51 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: mdittmar
eagerly surround vehicles as they drive up a street next to a convenience store.

Solution (if one has a pickup truck): Tell a bunch of them to pile in back and that you'll take them to a job at your house. Instead, drop them off at the local INS office and honk your horn. Word will get around quickly.

7 posted on 06/09/2007 6:47:05 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: mdittmar
Daniel Estrada, a 31-year-old illegal immigrant originally from Guanajuato in central Mexico, said he's been looking for work for more than a year

More than a year!? Maybe he would have better luck back in Mexico.

9 posted on 06/09/2007 6:48:17 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: mdittmar
latest in a battle officials in Arizona and across the country are waging against day laborers

Battle....Waging......Against day laboror's

No bias here.

10 posted on 06/09/2007 6:48:38 PM PDT by Tripleplay
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To: mdittmar

I wonder if Sen. kennedy has the same problem at his 7-11?


11 posted on 06/09/2007 6:51:14 PM PDT by Tripleplay
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Tell a bunch of them to pile in back and that you'll take them to a job at your house. Instead, drop them off at the local INS office and honk your horn.

Like this guy did?

12 posted on 06/09/2007 6:51:20 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: mdittmar

They could get jobs in the Carolinas, wasn’t it? Picking sweet ‘tates. (Where was it those farmers were whining?)


13 posted on 06/09/2007 6:51:33 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: mdittmar
Dozens of day laborers vying for one of a limited number of jobs eagerly

Limited number of jobs? I thought there were so many jobs that Americans won't do that we had to have a new program to bring in even more Mexicans. Was I being lied to? Nah, I must just be a bigoted fear monger who doesn't care about his Country.

14 posted on 06/09/2007 6:52:03 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: pnh102
lol...precisely like that guy did.

Although personally I'd go about it in a more busineslike manner -- no need to get giddy, nor call them names.

15 posted on 06/09/2007 6:54:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: mdittmar
"Cristian Arellano...said he thinks the ordinance...is racist. "They don't like us because we're Mexican..."

They've been taught that they are their own race now.

16 posted on 06/09/2007 6:54:34 PM PDT by n230099 (64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.)
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To: mdittmar
The nasty, ugly truth about the entire illegal immigration catastrophe is that the reason things are the way they are is because the government and all the business interests intertwined with it want it that way, period. We were placed right into the middle of this mess through decades of deliberate neglect specifically designed to have the outcome we see now, and setting the stage for the government to become the great savior that will "fix" the problem by signing a few papers. Quite a sickening state of affairs.
17 posted on 06/09/2007 6:56:25 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: B4Ranch

Mesa is a toilet now. It all happened in just a few years.

A real ghetto. How sad.


18 posted on 06/09/2007 6:57:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Tripleplay

Maybe they can be sent to Hyannis Port to work on the wind mills.


19 posted on 06/09/2007 7:00:33 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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To: Tripleplay

Someone should go pick a bunch up for a “day job” and drive them to the Kennedy Compound, and drop them off!


20 posted on 06/09/2007 7:01:58 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged BuildsCharacter! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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