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Bush Urges Independence for Kosovo
ABC News ^ | Jun 10, 2007 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 06/10/2007 6:44:05 AM PDT by indcons

President Bush, getting a hero's welcome as the first American president to visit this Balkan nation, said Sunday that there cannot be endless dialogue about achieving independence for neighboring Kosovo.

"Sooner rather than later you've got to say `Enough's enough. Kosovo's independent,'" Bush said during a news conference with the prime minister of this tiny, impoverished country.

Bush's press for statehood was aimed at Russia and others that object to Kosovo's independence. Standing alongside Prime Minister Sali Berisha, Bush said any extension of talks on Kosovo must have "certain independence" as the goal.

In response to Albania's push for NATO membership, Bush said additional political and military reforms were needed before that could be considered something the country's leaders said they understood.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allies; balkanization; freedom; immigration; islam; kosovo; muslims; russia; selfdetermination; serbia; wot
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Seems to be an attempt to pressure Russia, especially considering the frigid relations between Putin and the West. That being said, I always get nervous when there is talk of a new Muslim majority country.

What do you think? Comments are requested.

1 posted on 06/10/2007 6:44:07 AM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons
****What do you think? Comments are requested.****

Here's what I think -- it SUCKS. It also SUCKED when Clinton first got us involved in his little excellent adventure in the Balkans.

And heres why is sucks: Fast forward 20 years and you'll see the U.N., backed by China, and/or Russia 'demanding' a separate 'free& nation' for the 'ethnic Mexicans' in the US Southwest. And thanks to precedent like this and convoluted international treaties, we'll be 'obliged' to do it.

Of course US Citizens just might protest a tad and what will follow will make the so-called 'ethnic cleaning' in the Balkans look like a Camp Fire Girl bake sale.

2 posted on 06/10/2007 7:02:06 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Condor51

Ok...thanks. Your comment about setting a precedent is very valid. I don’t know why the West is so desperate to create Muslim states in Europe. Kinda provides a template for Muslim extremists everywhere to demand their own country.


3 posted on 06/10/2007 7:06:39 AM PDT by indcons (Linda and Hugo Chavez - same goals, different methods)
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To: indcons
I don’t know why the West is so desperate to create Muslim states in Europe. Kinda provides a template for Muslim extremists everywhere to demand their own country.

It's almost a sickness the way we bend over backwards and try to make muslims and everyone else love us...it's always bites us in the rear and this will be no different.

Another muslim state that hates us but loves to spend and siphon off our foreign aid.

4 posted on 06/10/2007 7:11:03 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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Kinda provides a template for Muslim extremists everywhere to demand their own country.

Or demand part, or all, of someone else's country. i.e France, England etc.- tom

5 posted on 06/10/2007 7:11:43 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: indcons

When we going to bring our troops home from Kosovo? Wasn’t it supposed to be Christmas 1997?? Where is Turda on that??

Pray for W and Our Troops


6 posted on 06/10/2007 7:14:10 AM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more terrorists then they killed)
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To: Kakaze

Not to mention the fact that Bush is pushing the EU to accept Turkey.

Will we ever learn?


7 posted on 06/10/2007 7:22:32 AM PDT by Brakeman
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To: indcons

Kosovo is a de facto muslim country. Therefore its residents need the possibility to choose a gouvernment that is suitable to their needs. This is what we all call freedom. President Bush is right to urge independence for Kosovo. I also understand that the Kosovarians do not want to live under Serbian control. We all know what the Serbians done to their muslim minorities. Nobody would have put Israel under the protection of Germany after 1945 as well.

Since it will be a small entity the threat from this new muslim country will not be very impressive for the rest of Europe. It is better to have stable and clear political conditions than a new “Gaza strip” within such a weak and incapable country like Serbia. There will be some loud whining about “the loss of old Serbian earth and monasteries” but the Serbs will be much better off without this badland. Instead of wasting huge amounts of money and blood into a senseless guerilla war they can concentrate on the economic development of their country.


8 posted on 06/10/2007 8:31:27 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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My first thought is that Bush wants this so he can send the fleet and drag the entire population of Albania to the States so he can throw goodies at them.

Of course, Bush and McCrazy both supported Xlinton's bombing campaign and the full U.N. agenda when this all began.

We should support the Serbs: tanks, planes, ammo, missiles, the works. Give it to them, keep the media out. Problem solved in about six months.
9 posted on 06/10/2007 9:01:34 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: indcons

How about some independence for the USA, el presidente jorge?


10 posted on 06/10/2007 9:04:10 AM PDT by Edgar3 (Steve Spurrier for President!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Kosovo is a de facto muslim country. Therefore its residents need the possibility to choose a gouvernment that is suitable to their needs. This is what we all call freedom.

How can you speak of "freedom" for Muslims in Kosovo when they have ethnically cleansed by relocation hundreds of thousands of Christians and destroyed Christian holy sites around the country. What Bush is doing is choosing the "freedom" of one group at the expense of the "liberty" of another, more deserving group.

11 posted on 06/10/2007 9:23:52 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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To: sidegunner; outofstyle; quesney; Brad's Gramma; OriginalChristian; Huber; Think free or die; ...
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list ping list.

12 posted on 06/10/2007 9:47:02 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Texas Federalist

Its time for you to recognize who your friends are. Not all albanians who are muslim are our enemy. You supporting the serbs are basically saying that you support the extension of putinism and russian foreign policy. Albania has been on the US side since day one on the GWOT. They have allowed for CIA prisons, provided troops to iraq and afghanistan and openly support US foreign policy. Albania is a democracy in the heart of a muslim world. Albanian muslims that are extremist are few and far between. We need to learn to recognize who our friends are, because when we do look over our shoulder there isn’t that many that stand with us, but Albania is one of them and has been since communism collapsed there. So go ahead and keep supporting the Putinism/Serbian foreign policy and deny a country whose friendship is hard to find.


13 posted on 06/10/2007 9:47:21 AM PDT by GideonOfWar
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To: Atlantic Bridge; All
Germany as usual on the wrong side.

eventual UN security council pro-separatist decision = Munich Pact
Serbia = Czechoslovakia
“Kosavarians” = Sudeten Germans
Bush = ……….(fill the gap)

14 posted on 06/10/2007 9:59:19 AM PDT by Lukasz
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look at the photos of the presidents albanian trip. How man women do you see wearing burqas and fully covered? Its a very liberal society, pro-western and they love americans. One of the first things the albanian government did after 9-11 was to make all the arabs from the middle east board buses and kicked them out of the country. They also provided names and held suspected terrorist for the CIA


15 posted on 06/10/2007 10:12:56 AM PDT by GideonOfWar
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To: Texas Federalist
How can you speak of "freedom" for Muslims in Kosovo

That is quite simple. Today they pose the majority among the residents. The majority rules in a democracy...

16 posted on 06/10/2007 10:17:18 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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To: Lukasz

BuHuHaHa! This kind of argumentation is quite risky here on FR. Anyway - your comparison is limping. You should realize that President Bush does not wear a squarish black mustache.


17 posted on 06/10/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

“That is quite simple. Today they pose the majority among the residents. The majority rules in a democracy...”

So if Mexicans pose a majority of the population in the southern American states, and were to demand independence for their majority areas, we should allow it, right?


18 posted on 06/10/2007 11:33:55 AM PDT by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: indcons

“”Sooner rather than later you’ve got to say `Enough’s enough. Kosovo’s independent,’” Bush said during a news conference with the prime minister of this tiny, impoverished country.”

I wonder if he would have the balls to make an equally applicable statement about Taiwan.


19 posted on 06/10/2007 11:35:40 AM PDT by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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To: indcons

No, Bush is simply trying to please the left wing as usual. Every time he does something right, I prepare for the next liberal marxist sellout he will do and he has not failed being the foolish moderate liberal he is.


20 posted on 06/10/2007 11:41:06 AM PDT by ohhhh (Republicans are now liberals, Democrats are Marxists. Lord, help conservatives.)
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