Posted on 06/10/2007 5:23:43 PM PDT by SJackson
I seem to be clicking on every artical today that leaves me madder than the one before!
I’d better stop, while my family still loves me!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
How can the Israelis “occupy” territory which has for millenia been a part of Israel? “Liberate” would be a more accurate term. God gave the land of Israel to the Jews, in an eternal covenant. It was the Muslim Palestinians who were occupiers of the rightful lands of the Israelis.
“But if you or your sons turn away from me and do not observe the commands and decrees I have given you and go off to serve other gods and worship them, then I will cut off Israel from the land I have given them and will reject this temple I have consecrated for my Name.” (1 Kings 9:6-7)
But God found fault with the people and said, “The time is coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.” (Hebrews 8:8)
By calling this covenant “new,” He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear. (Hebrews 8:13)
Read all the verses you can find concerning the covenant, put them together without ignoring any of them, and I believe you’ll find the covenant concerning the land was conditional.
Yeah, it was/is. Really it's all conditional. I keep hoping a secular Israel will turn to God for a spiritual Israel. Just how did they think that 6-Day War came about?
“When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come upon you and you take them to heart wherever the Lord your God disperses you among the nations, and WHEN you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey Him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today, then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where He scattered you.” (Deut. 30:1-4)
and again:
“IF you obey the Lord your God and keep His commands...” (Deut 30:10)
How much more evidence would you like about the covenant’s being conditional and also that the old covenant became obsolete?
If that’s not enough evidence, then read 1 Kings 8 again. Read Jeremiah 7. Read Hebrews 8. Or if you don’t believe in the Bible, then note that there was no Israel for over 2,000 years — they lost it due to unbelief.
If you believe it was unconditional, you’d have to ignore a whole lot of scripture, not to mention, history.
Are you sure you're posting to the right person? I was agreeing with you that it was/is conditional. Everything on the table is conditional. Our salvation is free but conditional.
Ezekiel 44:9
Zechariah 14:9
Malachi 3:6
Tsela Barr is a member of Madison Friends of Jewish Voice for Peace Suicide.
Mark
As far as I'm concerned, when one country attacks another, and then LOSES LAND, it's too late for them to cry "mulligan!" and get their losses back!
Mark
Either you forgot the Barf alert! Or you are just completely anti-semitic. Please clarify which.
2) The threadmeister regularly posts articles about Israel has never shown even the slightest anti-semitic tendences.
Yup. It’s all the fault of the dastardly Israelis. There would have been no conflicts if the stupid jews had simply allowed themselves to be eradicated in 1948, or 1967, no wait, 1973.
Why on Earth not? She wants the same thing Osama bin-Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad want; she can share a pit with them in Hell for all I care.
Let me see...20mil Arabs vs. 3mil Israelis. Israelis kicked their sorry butts, and the Arabs can’t hold a job,much less a country! After Billions of wasted ‘aid’ to these vagabonds,Israel is the still the target? I’ll stick with the Jews.
Actually, Israel has been occupied by the filthy maggots closer to 60 years, now...
Just saying®
The only reason the Palestinians are still refugees is because Arabs want them to be justification to kill Jews.Not to mention the fact that most of the "refugees" aren't "refugees" at all but moved into the area long after the fact, to lay claim to land in Israel once it was "driven into the sea" (the goal of the 1967 Arab military buildup) and ended up staying in "refugee camps" because the shiite holes they came from were no different or no better than the shiite holes they've made of their "refugee camps" and they probably aren't welcome back where they came from anyway just like they definitely are not welcome anywhere in the Arab world, which generally treats Palis as the lowest scum on the scumbag muzzie totem pole, except when they want to use them for political rhetoric, in which case they proclaim them to be the most oppressed people on earth.
According to Noam Chomsky, Israel has become a de facto offshore U.S. military base.Noam Chomsky. Now there's somebody worth quoting.
When the next group of Nazis stoke up the next batch of ovens Noam Chomsky will be right there, running up and down the line of naked and starving Jews, assuring them that they are just going to be given a nice shower.
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