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Studies Say Death Penalty Deters Crime (Well, Duh)
Associated Press (via MyWay.com) ^ | 06-11-07 | ROBERT TANNER

Posted on 06/10/2007 10:42:01 PM PDT by Tall_Texan

Anti-death penalty forces have gained momentum in the past few years, with a moratorium in Illinois, court disputes over lethal injection in more than a half-dozen states and progress toward outright abolishment in New Jersey.

The steady drumbeat of DNA exonerations - pointing out flaws in the justice system - has weighed against capital punishment. The moral opposition is loud, too, echoed in Europe and the rest of the industrialized world, where all but a few countries banned executions years ago.

What gets little notice, however, is a series of academic studies over the last half-dozen years that claim to settle a once hotly debated argument - whether the death penalty acts as a deterrent to murder. The analyses say yes. They count between three and 18 lives that would be saved by the execution of each convicted killer.

The reports have horrified death penalty opponents and several scientists, who vigorously question the data and its implications.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: capitalpunishment; deathpenalty; deterrent; duh; justice; study
Not shocked at the results but shocked that AP didn't hush this up. Several studies show that every execution saves somewhere from 3 to 18 lives.
1 posted on 06/10/2007 10:42:05 PM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: Tall_Texan

http://tinyurl.com/26szza


2 posted on 06/10/2007 10:46:04 PM PDT by upchuck (If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: upchuck

Sorry. I did the drill.

However, anyone who reads this thread, I’d recommend you click on the link on Reply #2. It gives a fuller account of the story than the one at the orginal link does along with replies.

Sort of surprised this isn’t getting more play here. When the MSM confirms a conservative viewpoint, it’s a rare day indeed.


3 posted on 06/10/2007 10:57:48 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Fred, are you in or out?)
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To: Tall_Texan

Well, Duh is my answer too.


4 posted on 06/10/2007 11:14:06 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Tall_Texan

As I stated on my own small blog earlier on this, “I don’t need the studies or scientists to lead my thoughts on the Death Penalty, when warranted. In fact, it is very simple.”

“A dead legally executed murderer cannot kill again!”


5 posted on 06/10/2007 11:44:22 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: Tall_Texan

Well, I’m going to make myself real unpopular again and say that I am agin restoring the death penalty in my home country, and Ill tell you why.

Whenever you see TV documentaries about murder, whenever you see “in-depth” analyses, or read about it in newspapers, magazines or even talk about such things with others - the emphasis is always on the murderer, how they operated, how awful they were, how terrible their homelife was, or whatever. Hardly ever do people talk of the victims, or even remember their names, not unless they are related to them or something.

Now for myself, I just find the whole process whereby these selfish SOB’s are given any attention at all, let alone turned into “celebrities”, utterly repugnant.


6 posted on 06/11/2007 12:30:11 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: DakotaRed

Exactly.


7 posted on 06/11/2007 12:30:44 AM PDT by skr (Car bombs and IEDs are the exclamation marks for the latest Democrats' talking points.)
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To: Vanders9

You can’t control the media coverage but, actually, most death row executions die in relative obscurity. They’re a one-day story unless they happen to fit the liberal we-should-feel-sorry-for-the-killer template.

I’m willing to accept the media distortion although I wish they counterbalanced the execution with more details about the crimes they committed.

If you take somebody like Timothy McVeigh who killed 169 people in Oklahoma City with a truck bomb, I’m sure the community feels a sense of justice that this man was tried and executed rather than getting three square meals a day in a federal jail for the rest of his life while hundreds lost their husbands/wives/sons/daughters/sisters/brothers/friends. The death penalty can’t bring their loved ones back but it makes a statement that some crimes are so heinous that the convicted perpetrator should pay with their own life.

I endorse that notion.

p.s. - the likes of Charles Manson and Sirhan Sirhan will never be executed and yet they are still given celebrity treatment when they come up for appeal every few years. Is that any better than the celebrity status Tookie received?


8 posted on 06/11/2007 1:38:10 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Fred, are you in or out?)
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To: Tall_Texan

I’d forgot about the appeals circus...

Maybe we should bring back Viking “Wergild” justice.


9 posted on 06/11/2007 3:42:54 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
I agree.

They should not be able to drag the thing out for 10-20 years. I heard Neal Boortz talking about this on air a year or two ago. I couldn’t find his entire dialog, but have posted his Nuze that I could find.

Here is Neal Boortz’s take on it.

“If we are going to keep the death penalty, let’s get serious about it. Congress should set up a special federal appeals court that does nothing but hear death penalty cases. This would the the only federal appeals court that can consider death penalty cases. The trial court would deliver a complete transcript to the death penalty appeals court within 30 days. The defense counsel would submit his appeal brief at the same time. The court would then have 30 days to reach a decision. If the death penalty is upheld the murderer gets executed the very next day. One more thing. He dies the same way his victim died. In the case of Arthur Rutherford, he would first be stabbed, then drowned.

Pay-per-view could cover the costs.”

10 posted on 06/11/2007 4:18:51 AM PDT by Gvl_M3 (Sometimes, you have to stand up for yourself, even if it doesn't look "Compassionate.")
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To: Tall_Texan

11 posted on 06/11/2007 7:03:41 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Tall_Texan
The steady drumbeat of DNA exonerations - pointing out flaws in the justice system - has weighed against capital punishment.

In my not-so-humble opinion, this should weigh FOR capital punishment. As our technology to establish culpability improves, then criminals confirmed to have committed a capital offense should be put on a fast track to the executioner.

12 posted on 06/11/2007 7:17:32 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, itís my opinion. No, itís not humble.)
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To: Tall_Texan
The recidivism rate for executed felons is... wait a minute, I have it here somewhere.... [shuffle, shuffle, shuffle]... oh, yes: zero percent.
13 posted on 06/11/2007 7:21:12 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: Tall_Texan
"Some scientists are out seeking the truth, and some of them have a position they would like to defend."

Does this mean the "truth" is not the goal of many scientists? Hmmmmmm

14 posted on 06/11/2007 9:07:34 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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To: Tall_Texan
whether the death penalty acts as a deterrent to murder

The death penalty is the ultimate deterrent. Dead people don't kill again.

15 posted on 06/11/2007 9:09:31 AM PDT by Samwise (Official Fred Head.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I feel that much scientific research takes the position:

“We believe this...now go out and find it.”

How else do you describe the nonsense coming out about global warming, as well the attempts to prove that homosexuals are “born gay”?


16 posted on 06/11/2007 9:34:09 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Fred, are you in or out?)
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To: Tall_Texan

Of course! Repealing the death penalty is sort of like legalizing gay marriage. It just doesn’t have popular support!


17 posted on 06/11/2007 9:37:47 AM PDT by Princip. Conservative
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To: Tall_Texan

If it deters great, But its punishment and I dont see where locking someone up for life deters crime...


18 posted on 06/11/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by ustanker (Secure the border!)
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To: Tall_Texan

Guess I should send this to my local paper. They had some whiny little diatribe on just this subject yesterday.


19 posted on 06/11/2007 12:58:02 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Tall_Texan

well,it’s a sure cure for recidivism


20 posted on 06/11/2007 6:42:02 PM PDT by steamroller
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To: Tall_Texan

well,it’s a sure cure for recidivism


21 posted on 06/11/2007 6:42:12 PM PDT by steamroller
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