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To: N. Theknow

Here’s what we do know. It took a thousand agents to round up 1,000 illegal aliens. So by your argument, to take care of the issue right now, we need 12 million agents.

It’s fair to ask the cost. It’s reasonable to come up with alternatives.

As I said earlier on this thread, an alternative approach is to complete the reforms left undone by the 1996 Welfare Reform act and as you also said, if we cut off the benefits, the problem will become lesser.


121 posted on 06/12/2007 5:18:40 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: saveliberty
Here’s what we do know. It took a thousand agents to round up 1,000 illegal aliens. So by your argument, to take care of the issue right now, we need 12 million agents.

So, 1,000 was all those agents were allowed to round up? They can't exceed their bag limit on illegals?

All the illegals didn't come in one day and they can't all be deported in one day.

But enforcement of existing laws and a "comprehensive" plan to deny them jobs and security in the US will do for a start.

Once this travesty of an amnesty is signed, there won't be any need for illegals to do anything but sit in the US as the stroke of the pen makes them "legal."

If anyone had their property taxes forgiven by the stroke of a pen and the city they lived in said for them to become citizens of the city they had to pay a fine and return to their original place of residence and apply for citizenship and then pay their back property taxes, how many would be inclined to do it?

And how many would just sit tight and say, "Are you nuts? Why bother with all that and have to pay fines and taxes when I get everything I want anyway?"

And if it will take 12 million agents to round them up, how many agents will it take, and how long will it take, to see that they are complying with the other provisions if they want to bother with becoming a citizen?

177 posted on 06/12/2007 5:48:11 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: saveliberty

Local law enforcement is just beginning to get involved, through the fairly new 287G plan. Give that a year, and we’ll start pushing a LOT of illegals who also break other laws OUT of the country. That’s a good first step.

Second, we crack down on employers — we are already doing that now some, and not only is it driving illegals away from the places it’s being done, but citizens and LEGAL immigrants are lining up to take those “jobs americans won’t do”.

We secure the border, build the fence, add the agents, and then if we see food rotting on the vine, we set up a guest worker program to handle it. We get the problem under control, and after a few million illegals give up and go home, we look at what we can do with those who have been here so long they have earned “squatter’s rights”.


209 posted on 06/12/2007 6:02:05 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: saveliberty
Here’s what we do know. It took a thousand agents to round up 1,000 illegal aliens. So by your argument, to take care of the issue right now, we need 12 million agents.

They need to go to work more than one day a decade.
288 posted on 06/12/2007 8:02:20 AM PDT by NonLinear (This is something almost unknown within Washington. It's called leadership.)
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To: saveliberty
Here’s what we do know. It took a thousand agents to round up 1,000 illegal aliens.

Strawman argument.

How many agents does it take to serve a Hormel/Tyson/Libby/Cargill plant manager with a federal cease and desist order, a federal felony warrant, and a federal search warrant. Followed by two private lawyers representing the plaintiffs of a public class action RICO lawsuit against that plant?

I count 10 people maximum, and that plant will be absent of illegal aliens within 30 minutes.

292 posted on 06/12/2007 8:08:41 AM PDT by angkor
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