Posted on 06/12/2007 10:46:14 AM PDT by Politicalmom
The Fred Thompson for President campaign – assuming it happens, which is a pretty good assumption — has scored a fairly high-profile hire.
Nelson Warfield, a well-known conservative consultant, is joining the campaign as a consultant and as part of a television advertising campaign team that Mr. Thompson has put together.
(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...
See? The MittHeads TOLD us that Fred was another Bob Dole. Must be true...
The MittHeads TOLD us that Fred was another Bob Dole.I think you mean the MittFits ...
Well, I wouldn’t want to offend them.
I did think about calling them steaming piles of Mitt, but it was too long...
Mitt will be down in single digits soon, so what does it matter.
“Mitt will be down in single digits soon”
Only in the polls that don’t matter ;)
He wanted a true conservative over Rudy (he failed).
I think he gave up on New York after that, but he is a bit of a stubborn guy.
I like him.
In the polls that do matter “the primaries” he will.
You know if some candidate with no fire in his belly who hasn’t announced yet and hasn’t even spent a dime campaigning was kicking my candidate’s butt, I would be downplaying the polls too.
I was not downplaying the poll. I was just referring to the fact that it’s about a hypothetical national primary that will never happen. In a related news thompson won a poll at the tennessean website about a race between him and Al Gore.
Okay, how about state by state, then:
| State | Rank | Source | Date |
|---|---|---|---|
| All | 1st (tie) 2nd 3rd |
Rasmussen LA Times/Bloomberg AP/Ipsos |
6/12 6/12 6/10 |
| CA | 2nd (tie) | Survey USA | 6/4 |
| FL | 2nd 1st |
Insider Advanatge Datmar |
6/11 5/23 |
| IA | 2nd | Public Policy Polling | 6/4 |
| NC | 1st | Public Policy Polling | 6/7 |
| NH | 4th 4th |
Mason Dixon Franklin Pierce College |
6/8 6/6 |
| SC | 1st | Public Policy Polling | 6/4 |
| WA | 3rd | Survey USA | 5/3 |
Your man Mitt leads Thompson only in Iowa and New Hampshire -- in all the other states Thompson trails, it's behind Guiliani and/or McCain.
To suggest that national polls don't reflect what is going on in the states is being a bit obtuse. Mitt might have his pet states in the northeast and he has been working Iowa hard, but that won't win the nomination. Thompson is out polling Mitt by 2 to 1. No matter how you divide that between the states that is not good news for Mitt.
“only in Iowa and New Hampshire”
That must be the understatement of the day. I won’t argue though. This is going nowhere. I’m just willing to bet that last week when giuliani was leading in all those late primary states you were dismissing those polls as irrelevant.
It is good news if you consider that he is ahead in the early primary states and by year’s end will have $100 million in the bank to spend running tv ads ahead of super Tuesday. Look, don’t get me started. Folks in Nebraska and North Carolina haven’t the fainest idea of who Mitt Romney is. They will most likely only realize there is a primary coming up when they see the headlines about romney winning in Iowa and new Hampshire. We are way ahead of schedule here. It reminds me of 2004 when howard dean had a 20 point advantage in the national polls for most of the year, kerry was running third, but after Iowa everything changed and he only won in vermont. We still have a long way to go.
Like Florida, South Carolina, and North Carolina? Thanks to the reshuffling of the schedule, those are all now "early primary states" (and not just SC). Romney trails Thompson in all three -- Mitt's strategy of banking everything on Iowa and New Hampshire doesn't take into account the reality of the new schedule.
Each individual poll is irrelevant. The trends they indicate are not.
The fact is, the chart I posted above was put together originally because of comments just like yours, i.e., Thompson's national numbers don't translate to state results, which is obviously false.
Keep dreaming. Thompson's health is fine, he did everything but officially announce on the Leno show last night, and McCain's campaign can't be saved by anyone. (Nor should it.)
Ok, family reasons, whatever. Its nice to know however that the Fredheads wouldn’t back McCain if Fred told them to.
While I can't claim to speak for all FredHeads, it seems to me that most, if not all, of us would gladly have Thompson as President, but that we aren't robots eager to do his bidding.
As for me personally, Guiliani and McCain are non-starters. I couldn't vote for either in good conscience, although Guiliani is bad enough that he makes McCain slightly less unpalatable. I don't trust Romney; I think he'd be the GOP equivalent of Bill Clinton. No one else has a realistic chance of winning the nomination, let alone the general election. Thompson is more than acceptable, and as a bonus, he's able to communicate effectively, and work around the media to get directly to the voter. Not only is that a winning trait, it will allow him to be more effective once in office.
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