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Most Americans favor letting illegal immigrants become citizens, poll finds (criminals excluded)
LA Times ^ | 6/12/07 | Janet Hook

Posted on 06/12/2007 4:54:57 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

A strong majority of Americans — including nearly two-thirds of Republicans — favors allowing illegal immigrants to become citizens if they pay fines, learn English and meet other requirements, a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll has found.

That is a striking show of support for the central tenet of legislation that has stalled in the Senate amid vocal opposition from conservatives to provisions allowing such a path to citizenship.

Only 23% of adults surveyed opposed allowing immigrants to become legal. That bolsters the view, shared by President Bush, that the bill's opponents represent a vocal minority, whereas most people are more welcoming toward illegal immigrants.

"They are willing to take jobs that our people aren't interested in, and I think this helps the economy," Joseph Simpkins, a retired dry cleaner in New Jersey who participated in the survey, said in a follow-up interview. "As long as they pay taxes, I see nothing wrong with having them become citizens

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The survey question specified that, under the proposal, citizenship would be available only to those who register their presence in the U.S., have no criminal record, pay a fine, get fingerprinted and learn English, among other requirements.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 4thestate5thcolumn; bias; crimaliens; enemdia; enemedia; identitytheft; idtheft; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; latimes; mediabias; msm; propaganda; subversion; yeahright
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To: BurbankKarl

oh yeah, I was not part of said poll so it is not representing accurate results. no one asked me.


51 posted on 06/12/2007 6:04:30 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: azhenfud

They are ALL lawbreakers. Every last one of the illegal aliens in the United States are criminals. They broke the law by coming here. How can anyone consider amnesty to any of them?


52 posted on 06/12/2007 6:11:43 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Most estimates say that 50% of the illegals have committed a felony by either a) re-entering the United States after being deported, b) used a fake or stolen identity to work, or c) been convicted of a felony crime.

The fact that the Cornyn amendment failed as it addressed all these tells you the worth of this poll....


53 posted on 06/12/2007 6:18:07 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

As I stated - I’m for any immigration plan that would exclude lawbreakers from amnesty.


54 posted on 06/12/2007 6:20:55 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: BurbankKarl

“Most Americans favor letting illegal immigrants become citizens,
poll finds (criminals excluded) “

Not suprising, as A LOT of Americans have no idea about the prevelence
of criminals (violators of USA’s immigrations laws, criminal codes
and Identity theft codes) in the illegal immigrant community.

They’ve NO, ZERO, NADA promise that these self-importred criminal
will change their criminal behaviour if made US citizens.
Not one bloody chance.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=crimaliens


55 posted on 06/12/2007 6:26:20 PM PDT by VOA
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To: BurbankKarl

This is BS. And are we suppose to wait to find out who the criminals are before we deport?


56 posted on 06/12/2007 6:29:28 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Unicorn

Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit!Bullshit! ........................ FRegards


57 posted on 06/12/2007 6:31:35 PM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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To: Unicorn

Its the LA Times. Nuff said.


58 posted on 06/12/2007 6:32:36 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: BurbankKarl
How does one spell BS. . . . . ?

Oh Right . . . . . .(spelled B.S.)

Can smell this tripe from way off.

59 posted on 06/12/2007 6:38:45 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Sure. The LA Times. Ha ha.


60 posted on 06/12/2007 6:44:48 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: BurbankKarl

Uh, they’re ALL criminals, aside from minor children brought by adults.


61 posted on 06/12/2007 6:47:03 PM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: BurbankKarl

This is not over yet. Bush refuses to give up this easily. It's his stubborn character. He will try to resurrect it and call it something else. We have to keep our guard up. We need to keep the pressure up.

STAGE TWO is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start giving them fines and arresting them. Just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. The magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.

As an addendum, we should anonymously call the IRS, people working "off the books" means taxes ain't being paid. Make anonymous fliers and hang them around the neighborhood, name names. It's time to embarrass these bustards, whether they give to the GOP or Rats, we don't need them.

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

62 posted on 06/12/2007 7:12:28 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: BurbankKarl

63 posted on 06/12/2007 7:43:40 PM PDT by ruination
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To: BurbankKarl
Bottom line.. this poll is pure bullshit and everyone knows it
64 posted on 06/12/2007 7:51:26 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: BurbankKarl
A strong majority of Americans — including nearly two-thirds of Republicans — favors allowing illegal immigrants to become citizens if they pay fines, learn English and meet other requirements, a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll has found.

That is just the "BAIT"..., the "SWITCH" takes place later..., when judges rule that the "STRINGS" are unfare and inhumane! Sorry..., but I have seen this play before!

65 posted on 06/12/2007 7:54:49 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: BurbankKarl

These would be the same Americans who think Elvis is still alive.


66 posted on 06/12/2007 7:57:49 PM PDT by Pelham (deport and impeach)
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To: EEDUDE

Actually, most of them are paying FICA, and they’re covered by Worker’s Comp.

They are on the W-2 payroll at most companies. They’re just using someone else’s Social.


67 posted on 06/12/2007 7:59:40 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If you don't have borders, you don't have a nation.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Was that the pole that asked,”Would you rather have illegal immigrants be given amnesty, or have Hillary as President?”


68 posted on 06/12/2007 8:16:45 PM PDT by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: BurbankKarl

First sentence tells all:

“LA Times/Bloomberg”

In other news La Repubblica reports that most Romans agree that Benedictus is the Pope.


69 posted on 06/12/2007 8:30:27 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: suffering_fools

Well put. I have never never spoken to anyone who says illegal immigrants should be made citizens. Never. Not one time. Not once.


70 posted on 06/12/2007 8:55:50 PM PDT by healy61
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To: suffering_fools

Well put. I have never never spoken to anyone who says illegal immigrants should be made citizens. Never. Not one time. Not once.


71 posted on 06/12/2007 8:55:54 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Choose Ye This Day
That’s why they have zero desire to learn English or assimilate; it’s also why they won’t want to pay fines and jump through all the hoops of the bill. As long as there’s no real border security and no real employer enforcement, there is no incentive for illegals to change their standard operating procedure.

I agree 100%. Mo matter what legislation is passed, if it inconveniences the interlopers even in the slightest bit, they will have nothing to do with it. It will be business as usual. We need to build the wall, start enforcing meaningful fines against employers of illegal aliens. If a serious effort was put forth a vast majority of them will deport themselves within a few years.

72 posted on 06/12/2007 8:58:28 PM PDT by One_American
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To: One_American

Exactly. We may want to make a public demonstration of deome deportations—a token gesture to show we mean business. But that would only be effective AFTER the fence is built and the border secure. Otherwise, these guys will be right back.

But once the employers know that we are serious and they will suffer severe penalties for keeping illegals on the payroll, we won’t need to spend the billions to deport the illegals. They’re going to leave on their own, if they know that the rules have changed.


73 posted on 06/12/2007 9:37:32 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If you don't have borders, you don't have a nation.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

“deome” should be “some”

(fat finger syndrome)


74 posted on 06/12/2007 9:44:30 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If you don't have borders, you don't have a nation.)
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To: BurbankKarl

My A$$ Deport all of them


75 posted on 06/12/2007 9:45:06 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: BurbankKarl

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


76 posted on 06/13/2007 12:30:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: All


77 posted on 06/13/2007 5:59:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Stop the invasion. Secure the borders now.)
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To: BurbankKarl
If they are here illegally, leave. GTF out.

Come back through the proper channels, learn English, become an American.

Felons need not apply.

If we need to increase the quota, we can, but none of this pap means diddley-squat if we don't secure the borders.

Failure to do so will be the end of this country.

78 posted on 06/13/2007 6:04:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: BurbankKarl

The L.A. Times tries again, with the usual results. Hilarious.


79 posted on 06/13/2007 7:55:07 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: BurbankKarl
This is a push poll, pure and simple.

Re-word the questions and you will get a strong majority who would be in favor of creating situations to encourage illegals to self-deport. In polls such as this one, there usually is a false dichotomy presented between amnesty and mass deportation, when a clear middle path is available.

80 posted on 06/13/2007 7:57:43 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: All

The L.A Times what a reliable source of illegal immgration news./s

No Amnesty! Not today, Not tomorrow, Not EVER again!


81 posted on 06/13/2007 8:00:25 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: BurbankKarl

If someone favored giving citizenship to the illegal immigrants except the criminals then none of them would get it. Illegal is Illegal is Illegal. They are all Illegal hence criminals


82 posted on 06/13/2007 1:59:57 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: BurbankKarl

If the poll asked if legalizing these folks seemed appealing when their kids cost $14,000 a year each in public funds for education and more for health, lodging and food? I think not too many would be in favor of another three trillion in debt.


83 posted on 06/13/2007 2:16:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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