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Compromisers On Capitol Hill Reviving Brady Expansion Again
Gun Owners of America web site ^ | 6/12/2007 | Gunowners.org

Posted on 06/14/2007 7:43:58 AM PDT by looscnnn

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1 posted on 06/14/2007 7:44:02 AM PDT by looscnnn
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To: Joe Brower

Ping!


2 posted on 06/14/2007 7:44:59 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: looscnnn
Don’t fall asleep on this one. This is just the foot in the door type of legislation that can be used to expand Federal power over firearms ownership down the road. The NRA is trying to sell this compromise the way the Bush Administration has tried to sell amnesty to illegals. The liberals are well schooled in the art of the dialectic: the provision of “two steps forward, one step back” toward their long-term goal: the disarming of private citizens as has happened in Britain and Australia.
3 posted on 06/14/2007 7:54:45 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: looscnnn
Taking a no compromise position on the gun rights issue can be useful, but I'd love to see these guys bash someone other than the NRA for a change.

I know they don't like the idea, but the NRA has been practical and effective at enhancing gun rights. And beating on them in IMHO just weakens the credibility of the GOA. At the end of the day it seems to me that it's really about getting their hands on a piece of the PAC cash.

4 posted on 06/14/2007 7:57:01 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: looscnnn

Ron Paul voted against it. No one else did.


5 posted on 06/14/2007 7:59:52 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
6 posted on 06/14/2007 8:03:34 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

No man is safe when the legislature sits...


7 posted on 06/14/2007 8:05:51 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: looscnnn

The will of the people doesn’t seem to matter much these days. Not too many options when that happens.


8 posted on 06/14/2007 8:08:44 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: looscnnn

Another GOA fundraiser. Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn.


9 posted on 06/14/2007 8:23:09 AM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Wallace T.
I'm a a bit confused about some of the comments posted here. You seem to be the only one who really sees how truly dangerous this bill is. We are now opening up a goverment process that will allow the governmenet to decide who is too mentally ill to own a gun.

IMHO, beause of the passage of this bill, anyone who sees a psychiatrist, is prescribed a psychotropic drug for any reason, had an eating disorder in adolescence, and on and on, may not be able to pass the NIC's background check.

For someone to think that this is a fundraiser for the GOA is ludicrous, again, IMHO.

10 posted on 06/14/2007 8:58:56 AM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: basil

You are correct in your assessment of some of the posters on this site. They see that GOA is the post and they automatically dismiss it as a fund raiser (even though they never ask for money in the alerts). It seems to me that they think the NRA can do no wrong. I wonder if these same people feel same about Republicans as they do about the NRA?


11 posted on 06/14/2007 9:04:28 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: basil

The legislation apparently passed the House of Representatives by voice vote. As far as it goes, the NRA has sold out to the Washington political process and has turned into a gun rights equivalent to a RINO organization. The Gun Owners of America is the real deal, as is the Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership. However, it would still be a good idea to contact your Congressman, especially the purported conservatives, to express your displeasure at this legislation, passed by the dirty trick of a voice vote.


12 posted on 06/14/2007 9:07:15 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
I agree that we should stay on our congresscitters' backs about this.

In your list of guns rights organization, you forgot one!


13 posted on 06/14/2007 9:42:13 AM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: looscnnn
If the ATF and FBI had more credibility in scrubbing these lists of people that should not be on it, then I would be in favor of legislation like this. I don’t think severely mentally ill people should own guns either. If they cannot be legally held liable for their actions, then they should not own a gun.

However, the ATF, FBI and gun grabbers have shown no credibility in scrubbing these lists. Because of this, I don’t want the federal government to be in charge of deciding who’s crazy and I don’t want them to be in charge of scrubbing these lists.

Because of their intransigence, we also have to be a bulwark on this issue.

14 posted on 06/14/2007 10:20:25 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: looscnnn

One more thing,

While Bush has disappointed in many areas, he has not disappointed in the second amendment area. Let’s hope he would veteo this (though I think he did indicate he might sign it into law)

Do we have enough senators to fillibuster this? Let’s hope so...


15 posted on 06/14/2007 10:22:55 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: looscnnn

Every time the NRA reaches a “deal” with Congress, gun owners get shafted.


16 posted on 06/14/2007 10:44:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: looscnnn

I’d like to know why, every single time a bill related to guns goes through Congress, gun owners get shafted in some way - but it never goes OUR way. For instance, couldn’t some Congressman JUST ONCE insert a provision to repeal Title 18, Section 922(o) into a “must pass” bill? Or maybe something to remove the odious “sporting purposes” clause from the ‘68 GCA, or to go back to $30 Class 1 dealer fees with NO examination of compliance with local zoning ordinances by the ATF, or allowing the DoD to sell components from ALL small arms ammo to the public? Hmmmm, what about that? Why can’t OUR people use legislative tricks and lie like the other SOBs?


17 posted on 06/14/2007 11:39:11 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I don’t think that severely mentally ill people should have guns either, but then I don’t think they sould be released into the general population also. If they are safe enough to be a part of the population, drive cars, etc. then they should be viewed as safe enough to have a gun. Same goes for criminals.


18 posted on 06/14/2007 11:48:14 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I can’t share the same view of him, due to the fact that he has not been presented a whole lot of gun bills (thanks to our Congress), his promise to sign an “AWB” if presented to him (I know we were told he said it just to get votes, but that would make him a panderer) and his lack of vetos (which should have been many).


19 posted on 06/14/2007 11:57:44 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Those 1s and 0s you stepped in is a memory dump. Please clean your shoes." PC Confusious)
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