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ndt: You can see from the article upon which this thread is predicated why people who really believe in God and people who well know that they are not soulless chimpanzees will NEVER accept your idea of "accepted standards."

Everyone else: ping your friends (and your favorite enemies) to the text of the underlying article. For all the things that matter, carry on.

"ndt: You can see from the article upon which this thread is predicated why people who really believe in God and people who well know that they are not soulless chimpanzees will NEVER accept your idea of "accepted standards."

Looks like a standard attempt to smear through lies and distortion to me. Feel free to tell me how Hitler was an "evilutionist" and then I can post quotes he made praising Christianity, then you can tell me how it's a lie and he was a pagan and hated Christians then I can show you how nearly every single one of those anti-Christian quotes came from the same guy who only met him once then we can really start pluming the depths of internet folk history.

But I would really rather not. It makes me feel dirty.

The fact is Hitler distorted both religion and science for his own pourpose. That is what psychopaths do.

Well, the attack on Augustine was well-directed.

Augie didn’t have much use for the Pelagians, of which this critter is certainly a member.

See!! Some things DO descend from ancient generations.

people who well know that they are not soulless chimpanzees will NEVER accept your idea of "accepted standards."

In 1930 Pope Pius IX condemned eugenics in an encyclical. The reaction in Eugenical News was the usual, predictable kind of reaction we witness on FR from the Dem Central anti-Freepers: the Pope is a science-denier and his encyclical is an "attack on the whole texture of science and the liberty of thought" and so on. The encyclical was criticized in Time, Monday, Jan 19, 1931 and this bit is noteworthy:

"But one of the most compelling rebuttals was not a direct one. It came from Professor Julian Sorell Huxley. Brother of Novelist Aldous Leonard (Point Counterpoint) Huxley, and grandson of the late great Biologist Thomas Henry Huxley, Julian Huxley is himself a most distinguished biologist and eloquent member of the scientific vanguard. Speaking to the Philadelphia Forum, he said: "In the long run we must envisage the control of population in the same manner we now control contagious disease. Birth control is by no means perfect, but it is one of the major events in the world's history! . . . In one or two centuries ... we shall tell the man who can't provide for himself and his family that he cannot have State aid unless he agrees not to have any more children. If he refuses, State aid shall also be refused him or else he shall be locked up. ... In our society a man with a small family finds that he gets ahead quicker and that his smaller number of children can have greater advantages. All of this may seem very undemocratic, but heredity and biology are very undemocratic."