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Mitt v. Hillary
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Posted on 06/16/2007 5:23:09 AM PDT by Degaston

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To: Degaston
Mitt leans in ...
Hillary leans in ...

So we've got these two leaning all over the country. When do they fall?

41 posted on 06/16/2007 6:29:08 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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To: Degaston
Hmmmmm, Mitt's trend ain't so good. To suggest he has the inside track to the nomination is lunacy.

Republican Presidential Nomination

Polling Data
Poll Date Giuliani Thompson McCain Romney Gingrich Spread
RCP Average 06/04 - 06/12 25.7 17.9 15.1 10.7 8.0 Giuliani +7.8
American Res. Group 06/09 - 06/12 24 15 20 10 12 Giuliani +4.0
NBC/WSJ 06/08 - 06/11 29 20 14 14 -- Giuliani +9.0
Quinnipiac 06/05 - 06/11 27 15 15 10 5 Giuliani +12.0
LA Times/Bloomberg 06/07 - 06/10 27 21 12 10 9 Giuliani +6.0
Rasmussen 06/04 - 06/07 24 24 11 11 7 Tie
FOX News 06/05 - 06/06 22 13 15 10 8 Giuliani +7.0
AP-Ipsos 06/04 - 06/06 27 17 19 10 7 Giuliani +8.0
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42 posted on 06/16/2007 6:30:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: bw17
If you run a candidate who supports abortion, illegal immigration, and/or has been divorced several times, you’re going to lose those states to Hillary because the conservatives will just stay home rather than vote.

Right now, the nomination is Thompson's to win or lose, not Roodies and certainly not Mitt's.

43 posted on 06/16/2007 6:31:54 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: bw17

If some conservatives stay home, then that proves that all the anti-Clinton bluster on FR and everywhere else was false. Those same people must not dislike the Clintons as much as they claimed if they’re willing to hand them the White House on a platter (one they didn’t steal from it when they left in Jan 2001).


44 posted on 06/16/2007 6:35:19 AM PDT by Moonmad27 (Run, Fred, Run!)
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To: Always Right

See post #28.


45 posted on 06/16/2007 6:35:30 AM PDT by bw17
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To: Always Right
The only major trend is Fred Thompson. Romney is stagnant at best in the national polls.

The polls that matter are the polls of people who are paying attention and actually listening to and comparing the candidates. In those polls Romney is sprinting ahead.

Thompson has picked some easy low-hanging fruit: people who know him from Law & Order. That fruit is likely to spoil a bit once he actually gets in the race and people get to see and hear how old and weary he is.

The national polls will only REALLY begin to matter around Labor Day, 2008.

46 posted on 06/16/2007 6:37:39 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: cdcdawg

How can anyone figure that Hillary Clinton has even a prayer in Tennessee, when Albert Gore Jr. couldn’t carry his native state ?

These early predictions and projections are bizarre in the extreme.


47 posted on 06/16/2007 6:37:41 AM PDT by colonel mosby
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To: bw17

Romney is the right’s version of Slick. Polished, coiffed, the right suit, the right smile, charisma — and it all looks phony. I do not like his positions, which combined with his past positions.....still does not ring true, just like his persona. I will pass on Romney.


48 posted on 06/16/2007 6:38:58 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: Always Right
Right now, the nomination is Thompson's to win or lose

Why? Because he's polling 20 percent in national name recognition polls?

He's doing well because he hasn't actually entered the race yet. He's been coasting lazily on the utterly fantastic and unrealistic expectations of the FRedheads.

That free ride will only carry him so far.

49 posted on 06/16/2007 6:42:02 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Degaston
Mitt Romney is going very strong. Unless some major trend changes this will be the matchup in November 2008.

Pure bovine waste!

50 posted on 06/16/2007 6:42:57 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Diogenesis

If those are the choices, it’s Hunter by a mile.


51 posted on 06/16/2007 6:44:38 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You will have your bipartisanship." - Fred Thompson, May 4, 2007)
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To: Laptop_Ron

>> Did I miss like a bunch of polls?

http://www.datamar.net/pdf/CRPP061407.pdf

Now that’s just one poll. The question is whether or not Mitt Romney has the strength in his loins and sinews to keep up the momentum that he’s building.


52 posted on 06/16/2007 6:49:05 AM PDT by Degaston
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To: JCEccles
Why? Because he's polling 20 percent in national name recognition polls?

Those aren't name recognition polls, those are choices for the GOP nomination. The non-runner lazy Thompson is beating the slick well-funded Mitt 2-1 in most national polls. Sorry, but Mitt is not resonating with the masses.

53 posted on 06/16/2007 6:49:34 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Moonmad27

Now that statement I agree with.

Unlike Mitt, there is hardly anybody that hasn’t heard of Hillary. And several polls say that 47% of voters would vote against her no matter who the republican candidate is.

What this means is that the Republican candidate needs to woo just 5 million of the remaining 64,000,000 voters.

In an age where more people watch American Idol than the Presidential debates, who has the best chance of doing that?


54 posted on 06/16/2007 6:49:44 AM PDT by bw17
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To: Degaston

I kinda feel sorry for him. He can’t get good buzz with a six-pack and a bottle of tequila. He looks nice, though.


55 posted on 06/16/2007 6:50:05 AM PDT by Laptop_Ron
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To: bw17
See post #28.

Republicans aren't Democrats. See post #42, that is what matters this election.

56 posted on 06/16/2007 6:51:31 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

I don’t have a dog in this fight...yet. However, I am very impressed by Mitt’s management skills and his campaign team. Those are very important factors that Fred seems a bit weak in. The skill, money, and team are needed for the long fight to win. BTW, this is why Hillary is so strong. Her funds and control of the dim party Machine are very important. If she did not have those going for her she would be under Obama’s bulldozer by now.


57 posted on 06/16/2007 6:52:52 AM PDT by darth
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To: Degaston
Now that’s just one poll. The question is whether or not Mitt Romney has the strength in his loins and sinews to keep up the momentum that he’s building.

Are you really looking for an answer? The answer is an obvious and enthusiastic "yes!

Now, where are the detractors sneeringly informing us that Romney may have surged ahead among likely primary voters in California, but California doesn't matter?

New Hampshire? "Doesn't matter." Iowa? "Doesn't matter." California? "That's just one poll."

58 posted on 06/16/2007 6:57:23 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Enosh
I keep seeing comments that the real owners/operators of the GOP(TM), the Lords of Money, are taking a pass on 2008 and not contributing. They're already resigned to eight years of Hillary!(TM), and cashing out and getting ready to set sail for the Cayman Islands.

You'll note that Blackstone Financial, e.g., sold their property portfolio, did a private placement of their equity to the Chinese, and distributed (enormous) cash payouts to their insiders.

Rats leaving ship, y'all. They milked the old Republic for all she was worth the last six years, cut their own taxes and offshored and outsourced and got rid of as many of their obligations to the rest of us as they could, and now they're over the side and swimming for shore.

But don't worry -- they'll be back in 2015, looking to pick over what's left.

59 posted on 06/16/2007 6:58:25 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Always Right

Since you obviously didn’t reread post #28, I’ll post it for you again:

“Right now, polls are a name recognition contest, and nothing more.

However, in every straw poll taken of people who have actually paid attention and/or attended a debate or speaking engagement of the candidates, Mitt comes out on top. That’s why Giuliani and McCain are avoiding the Iowa straw poll like the plague. Their campaigns could not withstand a solid trouncing this early in the race from a guy that most major polls list as 3rd or 4th overall.

It’s safer for them if they allow the media and bloggers to keep reciting some meaningless poll numbers rather than to compete in the first, real actual “poll” that means something.”


60 posted on 06/16/2007 7:08:39 AM PDT by bw17
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