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President's Clout 'All Used Up' (on immigration bill)
California Sun-Post ^ | 6.16.7 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 06/16/2007 5:19:45 PM PDT by hardback

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To: YellowRoseofTx

Bush (and 86% of Democrat senators who voted for Amnesty last week) want to pardon 20 million illegal aliens which include gang members, felons, child molesters, fraud perpetrators, drug runners, smugglers etc.....but won’t pardon a handful of border patrol agents and law enforcement officials or Libby.


61 posted on 06/16/2007 8:29:27 PM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Bronzewound

He has no intention of enforcing the borders, legislation or not. He is in hock to the liberals. If Stevens were to leave the court, he might nominate a Democrat to spite us.


62 posted on 06/16/2007 8:35:22 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Drew68
That's ridiculous. If that's so then why did 86% of the Democrat Senators in the Senate vote to end the Republican filibuster and so to pass the Amnesty bill last week?

You think 86% are totally against their base?

Liberals/Democrats are playing a game of good cop - bad cop, letting the Republicans ( Bush) be the bad cop and them pretending to be the good cop . Liberals/Democrats are multicultarists, they are economic socialists and so favor importing a poverty class, and they know they will get 200 million new democrat voters (20 million illegals and their family members they bring from the 3rd world) if this Amnesty bill passes. The media reporters are the most rabid, fanatical of liberals. That's the reason liberals go into journalism, to change the world to conform to their agenda of socialism, multiculturalism ( cultural Marxism).

I don't see a huge backlash against the 86% of the Democrat senators who voted for Amnesty from Democrat voters like I see from Republican voters against Bush.

So we've come to the point where conservatives are bashing The GOP and praising liberal reporters for wanting to do what's right for America? The day I see a a liberal do that is when pigs fly.

Also after Amnesty those 20 million illegals will join unions.

Unions are for this Amnesty bill and so are a coalition of hundreds of liberal groups which lobbied congress ,including "LA Raza" which had veto power over ammendments and many of these lobbyists sat in on meetings to craft this bill.

Corporations don't want Amnesty. then they will have to pay taxes on these employees and pay them higher wages.

So up is down here. We have everyone blaming the GOP and corporations for this Amnesty bill while giving unions and Democrats a pass.Sure Bush is wrong but he is not the whole GOP. Right now they are bribing and threatening the Republican Senators who voted to kill this bill to change their vote. I doubt they will vote to kill the bill again since all they got was bashing for doing the right thing last week and killing the bill (86% of Republican senators voted to kill the bill)

63 posted on 06/16/2007 8:37:06 PM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: i_dont_chat

Nothing has been said about the increased property taxes we are going to have to pay for new schools, teachers, cops, jails etc. or the strain on our already over burdened not for profit hospitals, that will be needed when they bring their millions of ‘extended families into the USA.


64 posted on 06/16/2007 8:38:22 PM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic and proud of it. Run Fred Run!)
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To: rurgan

People are unable to distinguish GWB from Republicans in Congress. They don’t understand the differences like you do.


65 posted on 06/16/2007 8:39:33 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: i_dont_chat

To everyone,....when you call your senators and congressmen, please be aware that they use Washington-speak. They will say they are against AMNESTY. Make them define amnesty. It may well not be the same as yours (that meaning, not the one normal people use as a working definition all over the world.) They are mostly liars and deceivers and, like Trent Lott, do not want any sort of participation from the plebians. Call every one of the people on exactly what they mean when answering your questions.


66 posted on 06/16/2007 8:41:13 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: indcons

Somewhere way back in the files of FR is a photograph of Bush shooting the finger. I realize that was the “Political capital” which he is ‘spending’ on his base. That is his message to the base.


67 posted on 06/16/2007 8:42:56 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Theodore R.
People are unable to distinguish GWB from Republicans in Congress. They don’t understand the differences like you do. That's true. The liberal media and Democrats know this and they are playing it perfectly. The result is that 200 million uneducated 3rd world immigrants( 20 milion illegals and their families they bring to the U.S.A.) will turn the U.S.A into a 3rd world socialist hell hole like Venezuela.
68 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:33 PM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Image and video hosting by TinyPic THERE...FIKED IT !!!...KILL THE BILL !!...
69 posted on 06/16/2007 8:46:57 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Crawdad
They keep telling us this is NOT an amnesty.....it seems they don't read the dictionary..if it looks, quacks and walks like a duck, it's a dirty, ugly pig of an amnesty bill.

am·nes·ty –noun 1. a general pardon for offenses, esp. political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.

2. Law. an act of forgiveness for past offenses, esp. to a class of persons as a whole.

3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense. –verb (used with object) 4. to grant amnesty to; pardon.

70 posted on 06/16/2007 8:50:21 PM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic and proud of it. Run Fred Run!)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Somewhere way back in the files of FR is a photograph of Bush shooting the finger. I realize that was the “Political capital” which he is ‘spending’ on his base. That is his message to the base. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HERE IT IZZ...HO'HAY SEZZ... Image and video hosting by TinyPic Kinda' Fits The NWO/NAU Mind-Set...mmmmm ?
71 posted on 06/16/2007 8:54:12 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: rurgan
Corporations don't want Amnesty. then they will have to pay taxes on these employees and pay them higher wages.

You are forgetting the Tax Amnesty portion. From what I can tell the Corporations won't have to withhold or be responsible for back taxes or taxes of the Z status workers while they are working here. This will simply open the flood gates and the corporations will now have legal workers that they don't have to withhold taxes on.

The big problem is not the 20 million that are already here. It is the 100 million coming when this bill gets passed.

72 posted on 06/16/2007 8:57:24 PM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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To: hardback

Call me a conspiracist but this is all about the New World Order driven by international bankers. The vehicle these bankers are having Bush railroad through is the North American Union (NAU) with regional foreign policy and commerce set by CAFTA.

Comprehensive Immigration Reform is a clearing for laying the foundation of the NAU.

The ultimate goal is control of world banking and commerce. World Government will follow once the regional integration and trade agreements are established.

The seeming conspiracy that I espouse is that Bush is controlled by bankers. He is their puppet. I believe very sincerely that I am correct.

Even though it appears ominous that Bush is a puppet to bankers, we still have parts of Congress to counter Bush’s moves.

But we sorely need to wake up to what is really going on in the world today. Because once enough of us are aware, our numbers will cause those that plot our futures without our approval to take us seriously.

You can get a great overview from a film that connects all the dots. If you have a high speed internet connection you can watch the film here (~1.5 hours):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173


73 posted on 06/16/2007 9:24:05 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: hardback
As is his habit, he painted scary scenarios if things don’t go his way

Stampeding the herd is an old Texas tradition

Even a few Connecticut Yankees have learned how to do it

74 posted on 06/16/2007 9:39:33 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: spectre

“It’s the Subversive UnAmerican Latino organization lobbyists that have more “clout” with our President than ‘We The People’ do.
I never thought I’d see this happen.

sw

NONE of us did!!
Not this evil, or this all encompassing.


75 posted on 06/16/2007 9:45:43 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: unspun

“We have been trying to warn people about the globalist designs of George Soros — yet “our” George W. Bush is threatening to become even more harmful to America and the world”

Absolutely incredible!!!!


76 posted on 06/16/2007 9:46:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: hardback; RAV_USA
Good catch, hardback! Welcome to FR .................... FRegards
77 posted on 06/16/2007 9:48:22 PM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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To: 353FMG; B4Ranch; All

““..which include gang members, felons, child molesters, fraud perpetrators, drug runners, smugglers etc.....”

And don’t forget the many jihadists who have sneaked across the border during that time.”

Ya know, Bush needs to ram this evil bill down our throats quickly.....before all the terrorists who snuck across the Mexican border attack America!


78 posted on 06/16/2007 9:51:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: sourcery
Take the Pledge: "I pledge to never, ever vote for anyone, for any office, who votes in favor of the Mexican Invasion Surrender Bill."

Pledge taken

79 posted on 06/16/2007 9:51:33 PM PDT by yahoo (There IS a solution to illegal immigration. It's called the Mexipult.)
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To: Travis McGee

Yeah : )


80 posted on 06/16/2007 9:52:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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