took me TEN years to pay off my student loans... i have NO pity for them.Well, duh! If colleges are intent on becoming more like luxury resorts, then of course tuition is going to go up.
A college degree is worth zilch. Add a legal degree, or MBA, or PhD and you might have something. but that would require getting some kind of decent grades at some point. Seventh grade is when they start to notice grades, so that is when the wheat starts to separate from the chaff. Party, get a truck, get a job at McDonalds and disappear in the chaff, or read some of the assigned books and get the grades. It’s never too late: witness the 73 year old who hopes to pass the high school exit exam so he can get married and join the army. If he had done this at age 18 he would be high in the cabinet of his country and on the BOD of an international bank or own a $10 million house in Tennessee and be in Congress.
I can relate... :(
College tuition will continue to increase at exponential rates as long as congress keeps fixing the problem by making more money available.
The more student loans available the more the colleges know they can ask for and get from the students.
I sincerely doubt that there is any significant difference between, say, and education at Harvard, and one gained at UMass or Boston College. Except that, when on job interviews, you can drop the name “Harvard”, get ooh’s and aah’s and much more moolah. Meanwhile, not a single person among the the Forbes 500’s top 50 has a degree from an ivy league school. Homeschooled kids routinely outscore students from the nation’s top private schools on standardized exams.
Man needs a little cheese with that whine, the last I heard the united state military was still paying tuition after active duty service. So save your money, don't be a coward, saddle up!
Oh, it worked for me!
Georgia State, York University (Canada), University of Texas at Dallas. I paid as I went, occasionally using the GI Bill, working full time and never went into educational debt.
Putting your kids in college right out of high school is only one possible way of them getting a piece of paper to hang on the wall that says they know how to use a library.
took me TEN years to pay off my student loans... i have NO pity for them.As colleges become increasing more female-dominated and many of those women still wind up being child-bearers and raisers, I question just how important a college degree is for some of them. Are they just trying to land a college-educated man or are they actually intending to use their degrees for some job in the real world?
Yes, some women obviously do - either by desire or necessity. But I know all sorts of women who went through college and are doing nothing that would justify the debt of going off to college.
My belief is that you shouldn’t attend college nowadays unless you know what sort of degree you are looking for and intend to benefit from.
As my ancestral Irish mother said, if you can't pay for it in cash, then you dont't need it. That advice has never failed me.
The following are Fortune 500s that filed briefs in favor of “affirmative action” in the Michigan “Grutter v. Bollinger” (Michigan University) case.
http://www.umich.edu/~urel/admissions/legal/gru_amicus/32_internatl.pdf
3M
Abbott Laboratories
American Airlines
Ashland
Bank One
Boeing
Coca-Cola
Dow Chemical
E.I. Du Pont De Nemours
Eastman Kodak
Eli Lilly
Ernst & Young
Exelon
Fannie Mae
General Dynamics
General Mills
Intel
Johnson & Johnson
Kellogg
KPMG
Lucent Technologies
Microsoft
Mitsubishi
Nationwide Mutual Insurance
Nationwide Financial
Pfizer
PPG
Proctor & Gamble
Sara Lee
Steelcase
Texaco
TRW
United Airlines
General Motors Corporation
http://www.umich.edu/~urel/admissions/legal/gru_amicus/gru_gm.html
“they cannot manage to save and are covered by debt”
These are some of the same “sub prime” idiots who are now losing their homes. If you choose to live like a millionare on middle class wages, what can one expect? These are the same values bding passed along to their kids who are “up to their eyeballs in debt.”
Well, let's see. You can go to the local community college for two years. I received a catalog from one of the local CCs this week and in-area tuition was something like $700 per semester for 18 hours. Or, as someone pointed out, you could use the military to pay your way. Or you could go to a local state college for about 2/3 of the quoted tuition (UT Dallas estimates a full time student's costs at $14k - $18k per year).
Makes sense, because if you go according to the Consumer Price Index, today the average would be $20,014.34.
I paid for my 4 year degree myself, because my folks made too much money to qualify me for aid. I did borrow money, but I paid it off the next summer... get this.. by WORKING a JOB... and one that I got when I was 14 and KEPT to this day, getting promotions and advancements, still only seasonal and part time. And I am paying for Law School now, again, with some debt, but I pay it as I go also, mostly. But I work, I study and I drive a 5 year old once new Car that my folks co-signed for but that I PAID for also.
As a side note and one poster mentioned the Fortune 500 non Ivy demographics... The VP of our Human Resource Dept DOES NOT HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE, and she is making 6 figures plus. When a job says “Or Equivalent Experience”, it means it. What’s wrong with my generation... and I see it all the time.. is they would rather be on MySpace playing than WORKING. And the kind of jobs they try for are Malls, Retail or worse.
Corporate America, the BIG companies will take interns. NON PAID, and those almost ALWAYS lead to a real job and a career path. But that seems beneath most folks these day. I could rant on this, but I see it everyday and thus have NO sympathy for those who treat college like a 5 year vacation on Daddy’s or the Taxpayer’s dime, then whine about how much they owe for the party later. BAH !!!
Darn. I didn’t realize it was so expensive. I was planning on going back and earning a degree in Black Lesbian Feminist Native American Environmental Multi-Cultural Educational Studies...