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Republicans can learn from Sarkozy's win in France
Union Leader ^ | Friday, Jun. 15, 2007 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 06/17/2007 2:11:51 PM PDT by Lorianne

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1 posted on 06/17/2007 2:11:55 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Here is an interesting article. And it can be useful, too.


2 posted on 06/17/2007 2:13:08 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Lorianne

As long as our president Bush and the leader of the G.O.P. Mel Martinez keep their minds made up supporting amnesty for illegals and refuse to listen to conservative doctrin nothing will be learned.
Soooo disappointed in these two.


3 posted on 06/17/2007 2:16:20 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Lorianne

It would be interesting to see how we could profit from Sarkozy’s win. You know, some concrete examples. Apart from the most important and most obvious one I mean. That would be killing the immigration bill.


4 posted on 06/17/2007 2:21:28 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Joe Boucher

And if it goes through, kiss the Presidency goodbye and permanent rodent majority status hello. This President has stabbed the Conservative movement in the back.


5 posted on 06/17/2007 2:22:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Lorianne; jellybean

“an idea and the man who believed in it.”

Sounds like a job for FDT.


6 posted on 06/17/2007 2:23:10 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a new customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: Joe Boucher; fieldmarshaldj

Checkmate.

7 posted on 06/17/2007 2:27:20 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Lorianne
Found on the net:

France's minister of immigration and national identity, a new ministry created by President Nicolas Sarkozy, has ruled out legalizing undocumented immigrants en masse.

The new ministry said today that government policy would be dictated by firmness and pragmatism.

"We have to put aside massive legalization. It doesn't work and it penalizes, even immigrants," Brice Hortefeux said on Europe 1 radio.

Policy, he said, would be guided by "firmness and humanism" with "lots of pragmatism."

He also said he planned to adhere to the policy of deporting illegal immigrants from France. The number of deportees was expected to reach some 25,000 this year, and Hortefeux said he would ensure that figure is reached.

... Sarkozy had said he wants to ensure that those who join families in France can speak French and that family members receiving them can support the newcomers.

8 posted on 06/17/2007 2:30:31 PM PDT by Sender (I know I left my country around here somewhere. Reward if found.)
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To: Lorianne
Yep. Unfortunately the RNC and the White House are tone deaf right now. The PR machine being operated by Rove and Martinez is the best gift the Rats could ever have.
9 posted on 06/17/2007 2:37:43 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Lorianne

Well, we have a big problem which affects everyone. It is also a problem that most Americans, aside from the politicians agree that is bad for America.

It’s amnesty and let’s solve it.


10 posted on 06/17/2007 2:38:00 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: The South Texan
Unfortunately the RNC and the White House are tone deaf right now.

They aren't tone deaf, they just don't care what you have to say.

11 posted on 06/17/2007 2:48:46 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I don’t think so.
Can you name Any issue he has stood with the conservatives?
Bush has Never been a conservative. We have hoped he would be but he has never been a real conservative.


12 posted on 06/17/2007 3:04:52 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Joe Boucher

Memories are growing short with him. The judicial appointments are about all he has left to crow about.


13 posted on 06/17/2007 3:08:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Oh, you mean that Harriet Miers deal?
Like this amnesty b,s, that was stopped from happening only as a result of every conservative in America going balistic.


14 posted on 06/17/2007 3:23:35 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Lorianne; nctexan; MassachusettsGOP; paudio; ronnie raygun; Minette; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...

Newt is correct, of course.

Testimony, Sarko’s biography is an eloquent book that contains many lessons for GOP.

It isn’t enough just to win, one must govern the whole country and be President of all the pople after the election.

Another lesson to be learned is from the Socialist camp, and the dissolution of the sham “marriage” of Royal and Hollande 5 minutes after losing election results were in.

If the GOP doesn’t get its act together before the 2008 Election, Billary will rule America, and it won’t be pretty.

The brilliance of Sarko’s victory is that he succeeded in uniting his very divided party, UMP, around a few important ideas they could all agree on.

Just like Ronald Reagan, and his conclusion that if one is in agreement with a candidate 80% of the time, that candidate is not your enemy, but your ally.


15 posted on 06/17/2007 3:26:38 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO :: Keep the Arkansas Grifters out of the White house.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Cincinna
America is nearing the end times if our politicians ever start to resemblence their French equivalents.

In order for the GOP to nominate a Sarkozy-like candidate, we'd have to run Michael Bloomberg or Linc Chafee for President (Giuliani supports Bush on Iraq and is therefore too "extreme" by French standards). And for the Democrats to look anything like they're French equivalents, they'd have to locate a RAT so unhinged that the candidate runs as openly "Socialist". Basically we'd probably end up with a general election between Bloomberg/Chafee vs. Cythnia McKinney/Bernie Sanders. Both "major" parties will then champion a godless America, a nonexistent military, universal health care, the welfare state, and confiscating all guns in America. Bingo. French style election. Fun thought, eh?

Oh, the idea that Hillary is anything Sergole Royale is laughable. For starters, Royale is unabashedly socialist while Hillary claims to support capitalism. And Royale actually looks good in a bathing suit. Royale's defeat hardly "dooms" Hillary's chances. There are plenty of Hillary-like weasels in positions of power around the world, like Prime Minister Helen Clarke in New Zealand.

Hillary is a loud-mouth liberal shrill by American standards, but the French are so detached from reality, she'd probably be "Right-wing" if she ran on the same platform in France (and probably lose the UMP nomination to a more "Forward thinking" candidate who opposed the Iraq war from the start)

16 posted on 06/17/2007 4:00:33 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; All

“This President has stabbed the Conservative movement in the back”

Stabbed the United States of America in the back!!


17 posted on 06/17/2007 4:03:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Well, I don’t care if he stabs liberals and RINOs in the back. That’s who need to be stabbed. But you don’t f**k your supporters... ever. I defended him for 6 1/2 years against BDS sufferers, and now he’s spread the disease to his base.


18 posted on 06/17/2007 4:24:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Lorianne

Our Sarkozy will be Fred Thompson!!


19 posted on 06/17/2007 4:36:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Lorianne

Our Sarkozy will be Fred Thompson!!


20 posted on 06/17/2007 4:36:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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