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Australia: 80,000 forced to work for the dole (welfare)
adelaide now ^ | Jun3 17 2007

Posted on 06/17/2007 2:36:43 PM PDT by llevrok

UP to 80,000 long-term unemployed people will be forced to work full time for the dole, even if they are actively looking for work, under changes to the government's Welfare to Work program annouced today. The full time work for the dole program, introduced in July last year, requires participants to work 25 hours a week for 10 months of the year. Currently, people classified as long-term unemployed, those who have been unemployed for two or more years, are only referred to the program if they deliberately avoid their commitment to find work. Under changes announced today, however, people will be automatically placed in the full time work for the dole program once they have completed two rounds of an intensive job seeking workshop and still have not found work. Workforce Participation Minister Sharman Stone said 80,000 people classified as long-term unemployed in the current labour market is unacceptable. "Early data shows 30 per cent of job seekers who do full time work for the dole either go on to a part-time job or leave income support completely, compared to only 14 per cent of similar job seekers who did not do full time work for the dole,'' Dr Stone said in a statement. "With a 33-year low unemployment rate of 4.2 per cent and almost 310,000 jobs created in the last year alone, there has never been a better time for the long-term unemployed to break the cycle of welfare dependency and get a job.'' "Therefore, full time work for the dole will give job seekers that valuable work experience that employers are looking for.'' Meanwhile, the Australian Greens today called on the federal government to cancel planned tax cuts for high income earners and use the money saved to increase the aged pension by $60 per fortnight.

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1 posted on 06/17/2007 2:36:45 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

Sounds reasonable to me. The Bible says if you don’t work, you don’t eat. And more recently someone said, “Give a man a fish and he’s dependent on you forever. Give a man a fishing pole, and he becomes a fisherman.” I know I paraphrased, but I like it.


2 posted on 06/17/2007 2:48:32 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll; llevrok

Some believe that sitting on their butts eating junk food and watching Oprah is, if not a career, surely a noble calling.

Would you crush their dreams?


3 posted on 06/17/2007 2:53:41 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: llevrok

o the humanity!! having to work in order to receive income!


4 posted on 06/17/2007 2:54:00 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Paperdoll
It’s sooo unfair to force a person to work who has merely been unemployed for a few years, heartless b@sterds!
/sarc
5 posted on 06/17/2007 2:54:12 PM PDT by Greystoke
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To: llevrok
80,000 in Australia? Atlanta has 80,00 "Katrina refugees" still on welfare. (Like they weren't on welfare full time in LA) "When's someone gwan do somfin fo us?"
6 posted on 06/17/2007 2:58:19 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Paperdoll

>>>“Give a man a fish and he’s dependent on you forever. Give a man a fishing pole, and he becomes a fisherman.” <<<

I’ve always been in favor of adding a 3rd line. ;)

Give a man a fish, and feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish, and feed him for a lifetime.
Throw a man to the fish, and feed the fish for a week!

(and it makes for better fishing, too! ;) )


7 posted on 06/17/2007 3:00:36 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Paperdoll
And more recently someone said, “Give a man a fish and he’s dependent on you forever. Give a man a fishing pole, and he becomes a fisherman and you get the old coot out of the house.” I know I paraphrased, but I like it.

Ditto.

8 posted on 06/17/2007 3:01:09 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: llevrok

Good idea. Even FDR required some sweat equity in return for your welfare such as the CCC and so on. If you are abled bodied or relatively so, then there is a lot of things that can be done, even jobs that “Americans will not do.” If someone is old, sick or whatever, I have no objection on handing out welfare but there should be ways for the more able bodied to reduce their footprint on society and this is it.


9 posted on 06/17/2007 3:06:26 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Paint me something patriotic, like, The Confederate Flag!" - Wolf, from "Blackboard Jumble")
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To: llevrok

“So, what kind of work will I have to do?”
“Well, Everett, you’re going to be sent out with a lorry load of trash. You’ll be spending five hours a day throwing trash off the lorry onto the side of the road.”
“That’s just crazy. The country will end up looking like a landfill.”
“Well, no, Everett. Inmates from the local prisons will be sent out on work details to pick up the trash.”
“This is just insane. The whole thing is a scam to keep prisoners busy.”
“No, Everett. It’s to keep *you* busy.”


10 posted on 06/17/2007 3:09:45 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: llevrok

They are not being FORCED to work, they will now simply be PAID to work. They don’t have to work if they don’t want to. They just won’t get any money if they don’t.

Those are the same rules my employer FORCES upon me...


11 posted on 06/17/2007 3:10:43 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: yankeedame

LOL! From another yankeedame. :)


12 posted on 06/17/2007 3:11:38 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: llevrok

Gasp! Isn’t that slavery?

< /sarcasm >


13 posted on 06/17/2007 3:11:44 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Bon mots
"Those are the same rules my employer FORCES upon me..."

Yeah and all the people I worked for did the same! Its a frggin conspiracy I tell ya! There should be a law...

14 posted on 06/17/2007 3:16:14 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: llevrok

It sounds like a great start.

Not to sound mean, but the jobs should be unpleasant enough and poorly paid enough to make sure there is a strong incentive to look for somthing better. This should not be an “inside track” to a cushy govenment job.


15 posted on 06/17/2007 3:39:11 PM PDT by ndt
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To: Paperdoll

No, you give a man a fishing pole and pretty soon he has a bass boat, fly lures, sonar tracking and he just will not shut up about fish.


16 posted on 06/17/2007 3:53:29 PM PDT by chmst
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To: llevrok

Creating Australian workers for jobs that illegal immigrants won’t have to do because Australians won’t do them.


17 posted on 06/17/2007 4:10:17 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: Nowhere Man

They did, but you know they had no idea how many were out of work and needed a job. Most of those on CCC and other FedGov makework actually wanted to work. Somewhat different situation.


18 posted on 06/17/2007 4:15:00 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: chmst

LOL! So that’s the way it works! :o)


19 posted on 06/17/2007 4:20:28 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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