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Va. School's No-Contact Rule Is a Touchy Subject
WaPo ^ | June 18, 2007 | Maria Glod

Posted on 06/18/2007 8:46:38 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative

Fairfax County middle school student Hal Beaulieu hopped up from his lunch table one day a few months ago, sat next to his girlfriend and slipped his arm around her shoulder. That landed him a trip to the school office.

Among his crimes: hugging.

All touching -- not only fighting or inappropriate touching -- is against the rules at Kilmer Middle School in Vienna. Hand-holding, handshakes and high-fives? Banned. The rule has been conveyed to students this way: "NO PHYSICAL CONTACT!!!!!"

School officials say the rule helps keep crowded hallways and lunchrooms safe and orderly, and ensures that all students are comfortable. But Hal, 13, and his parents think the school's hands-off approach goes too far, and they are lobbying for a change.

"I think hugging is a good thing," said Hal, a seventh-grader, a few days before the end of the school year. "I put my arm around her. It was like for 15 seconds. I didn't think it would be a big deal."

A Fairfax schools spokesman said there is no countywide ban like the one at Kilmer, but many middle schools and some elementary schools have similar "keep your hands to yourself" rules. Officials in Arlington, Loudoun and Prince George's counties said schools in those systems prohibit inappropriate touching and disruptive behavior but don't forbid all contact.

Deborah Hernandez, Kilmer's principal, said the rule makes sense in a school that was built for 850 students but houses 1,100. She said that students should have their personal space protected and that many lack the maturity to understand what is acceptable or welcome.

"You get into shades of gray," Hernandez said. "The kids say, 'If he can high-five, then I can do this.' "

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: discipline; fairfaxcounty; pda; teens; zerotolerance
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A December 2005 article in the LA Times (about a California school) had the same cheesy pun in the title.
1 posted on 06/18/2007 8:46:42 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Our schools are run by idiots and pedants. That any student manages to navigate them with their brains still intact is a miracle.


2 posted on 06/18/2007 8:50:14 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

((just shaking my head))


3 posted on 06/18/2007 8:52:04 AM PDT by RDTF (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Rummyfan

This is so true-how can you ask students to respect such moranic rules and the idiots who make up such rules. What happens is kids decide not to listen to or believe anything these fools tell them. Who can blame them?


4 posted on 06/18/2007 8:52:46 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: Rummyfan

I agree. You just know that some committee came up with this. And no one saw how stupid it really was.


5 posted on 06/18/2007 8:53:42 AM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I suppose the varsity football team actually plays flag football to keep with the policy


6 posted on 06/18/2007 8:54:19 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (I remember when a pop-up blocker meant a cold shower.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Government schools are expensive baby sitters. Policies of these baby sitting institutions have been created principally to guard against those children who have been raised by parents who haven't taught their children any rules or standards.
7 posted on 06/18/2007 8:54:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Well, I guess “Good Touch - Bad Touch” is out the window...


8 posted on 06/18/2007 8:55:25 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Then I guess swirlies are out of the question...


9 posted on 06/18/2007 8:56:20 AM PDT by dakine
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To: ClearCase_guy

Chinese School has just begun, no more laughing, no more fun. If you show your teeth or tongue, you must pay a penalty.


10 posted on 06/18/2007 8:56:23 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy
Chinese School has just begun, no more laughing, no more fun.

I know this is tangential to your point, but I thought it worth a remark... In Chinese school classrooms, physical contact is impossible to avoid. I had the opportunity to visit a couple of high schools in PRC a few years ago. Each classroom had approx 50 students in it, and they were sitting literally shoulder-to-shoulder.

11 posted on 06/18/2007 9:00:39 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Didn’t the teacher’s union go on strike?


12 posted on 06/18/2007 9:02:51 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Rummyfan

From the county that tells you how many trees to plant in your yard. Comply or go to jail. Glad I moved.


13 posted on 06/18/2007 9:03:35 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I wonder if these ridiculous rules were passed by the same people who say we need to stop going after petty criminals and that we have to let some criminals out of jail because we don’t have the people and infrastructure needed to enforce the laws.


14 posted on 06/18/2007 9:05:54 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Rummyfan

My friend’s 12 YEAR OLD daughter had a boy walk up to her in the hall, pin her arms behind her and shove his tongue down her throat.

That’s SEXUAL ASSAULT.

Because no staff or faculty saw it, HE GOT AWAY WITH IT!

I say keep them apart.


15 posted on 06/18/2007 9:06:34 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Mrs.Z
I say keep them apart.

Mrs. Z, there's a universe of difference between sexual assault and a kid patting his buddy on the back.

16 posted on 06/18/2007 9:10:00 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: Mrs.Z
Because no staff or faculty saw it, HE GOT AWAY WITH IT! I say keep them apart.

How would a rule make a difference if nobody witnessed it?

17 posted on 06/18/2007 9:10:19 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Rummyfan
Our schools are run by idiots and pedants.

Our schools are controlled by idiot rabid parents, their lawyers and administers who cower down to them.

Lawyers, psychologist, activist parents, and a pacifist public have turned our public school system in to a failed social experiment.

18 posted on 06/18/2007 9:10:57 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: Sloth

Touching would be easier to prove and have a lighter “sentence”.

It would go on the record and maybe slow him from future garbage.


19 posted on 06/18/2007 9:12:13 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Here’s the email address for the principal:
Deborah.Hernandez@fcps.edu


20 posted on 06/18/2007 9:13:43 AM PDT by Shannon
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