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WE CAN'T EVEN DEPORT ILLEGAL CRIMINALS
Boortz Blast ^ | 19 June 2007 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 06/19/2007 6:24:31 AM PDT by K-oneTexas

WE CAN'T EVEN DEPORT ILLEGAL CRIMINALS

As it is, the federal government is already bogged down with too much immigration paperwork. So the Congress' plan ... just grant them amnesty! It's probably out of sheer laziness (and fear) to actually work on the current system, which is clearly failing.

In the second half of 2006, Colorado officials turned over 15,000 names to federal authorities. Why? Because the criminals Colorado was sending to jail had no paperwork. They were illegal criminals. And now, they are sitting in Colorado jails – paid for by Colorado taxpayers – and the federal government can't do a darn thing about it. 15,000 criminals, folks! In just six months! In one state. And who knows how many they don't have in jails!

These are criminals. Not just because they broke the law to get into this country, but they broke the laws of their counties and they are sitting in jail. And even if the state reports the names, nothing is going to happen. Nothing. That's our federal government for you. Can't even get a simple passport issued.

Congress would rather grant amnesty to these criminals than do what they deserve: deport them. If the federal government can't even send the illegals home who commit additional crimes (other than coming here in the first place), you know that they aren't serious about the rest. All they have to do punish anyone who enables this criminal illegal alien enterprise. That includes the employers, the banks, the landlords ... everyone. Yank out the welcome mat. They will self deport. They'll go home! If they can't make money, there is no point in being here. Let them leave.

What's sad is that the number reported increased 71 percent from two years ago. That is no insignificant increase! Are more of them suddenly crossing the border? No. But we have gotten to a point where this has been allowed to go on for too long. And amnesty for their crimes is not the way to solve it.


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Third article in todays Boortz Blast. I remember some posts over the last week or so where some charts on business 'crack downs' over a number of years and information/data from the DHS Annual on arrests of illegals through several Administrations were shown were posted on other threads. They show this very well considering 12-20M illegals inside the USA (depending on whose estimate).

I'm wondering what the Feds were thinking. 1. Well the State has them let them worry about it and pay for them? or 2. We have enough on our plate, get back to you later.
1 posted on 06/19/2007 6:24:34 AM PDT by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas

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2 posted on 06/19/2007 6:25:39 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: K-oneTexas

About the only business not considered for outsourcing has been prisons. Since overcrowding is a chronic problem, I propose outsourcing our prisons ... to Mexico.


3 posted on 06/19/2007 6:27:06 AM PDT by sono
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To: K-oneTexas

YOU MUST CONTACT YOUR SENATOR TODAY AND EVERYDAY UNTIL THIS BILL IS KILLED!

They are going to try and slip this though next week. Scream like you have never screamed before. The costs for this will be huge. I have nothing against anyone coming here to become an American but do so legally.

The politicians have lost their minds.


4 posted on 06/19/2007 6:29:00 AM PDT by kjo
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To: K-oneTexas

5 posted on 06/19/2007 6:29:01 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: K-oneTexas
(Stats from the DHS 2004 Yearbook of Immigration Statistics, Analysis is mine.)

Employer Investigation Efforts of U.S. Immigration Authorities:

Fiscal Year Worksite Arrests Notices of Intent to Fine
1993 7,630 1,302
1994 7,554 1,063
1995 10,014 1,056
1996 14,164 1,019
1997 17,554 865
1998 13,914 1,023
1999 2,849 417
2000 953 178
2001 735 100
2002 485 53
2003 445 162
2004 159 3

The average annual worksite arrests under Clinton was 9,329 arrests. The average annual worksite arrests under President Bush is 456. This is a 95 percent reduction in average annual worksite arrests under President Bush.

The average annual notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens under Clinton was 865. The average under President Bush is 79.5. This is a 90 percent reduction in average annual notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens.

And then there is 2004 where, under President Bush, only 3 notices of intent to fine employers of illegal aliens were done. 3!! But that was President Bush's worst year. Let's compare best years then.

Under Clinton his best year for Worksite Arrests was 1997 with 17,554 reported. President Bush's best year was 2001 with 735 worksite arrests reported. This is a 99.7 percent reduction in worksite arrests under President Bush when comparing best years.

Clinton Presidency, Total Aliens Expelled:
1993 1,285,952
1994 1,074,781
1995 1,364,688
1996 1,643,108
1997 1,555,116
1998 1,743,273
1999 1,755,754
2000 1,861,933
Total over 8 years: 12,284,605
Average Annual Total Aliens Expelled: 1,535,575

Bush Presidency, Total Aliens Expelled:
2001 1,432,061
2002 1,084,661
2003 1,076,483
2004 1,238,319
Total over 4 years: 4,831,524
Average Annual Total Aliens Expelled: 1,207,881

The average annual total of aliens expelled under President Bush is 327,694 LESS than the average under President Clinton. That is a 21.3 percent reduction in aliens expelled compared between Clinton and President Bush.

Deportable Aliens located in non-border sectors (interior enforcement):
Clinton presidency, last four years:
1997 44,246
1998 39,096
1999 42,010
2000 32,759
Total: 158,111

Bush presidency, first four years:
2001 30,496
2002 25,501
2003 26,492
2004 21,113
Total: 103,602

Total deportable aliens located in interior sectors during the first four years of the Bush presidency represents a 34.4 percent drop compared to the previous four years - the last four years of the Clinton presidency.

Deportable Aliens Located:
Clinton Presidency first four years:
1993 1,327,261
1994 1,094,719
1995 1,394,554
1996 1,649,986
Total: 5,466,520

Clinton Presidency last four years:
1997 1,536,520
1998 1,679,439
1999 1,714,035
2000 1,814,729
Total: 6,744,723

Bush Presidency first four years:
2001 1,387,486
2002 1,062,279
2003 1,046,422
2004 1,241,089
Total: 4,737,276

Total deportable aliens located dropped by 29.7 percent in the first four years of the Bush Presidency compared to the previous four years - the last four years of the Clinton Presidency.

Sources: DHS Yearbook of Statistics 2004 and other DHS and INS sources.

6 posted on 06/19/2007 6:30:47 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Czar; Borax Queen; janetgreen; CottonBall; Quix
What's sad is that the number reported increased 71 percent from two years ago. That is no insignificant increase! Are more of them suddenly crossing the border? No. But we have gotten to a point where this has been allowed to go on for too long. And amnesty for their crimes is not the way to solve it.

ping!

7 posted on 06/19/2007 6:31:17 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: K-oneTexas

If the federal government can’t even send the illegals home who commit additional crimes (other than coming here in the first place), you know that they aren’t serious about the rest.

The Feds can get Dog the Bounty Hunter extradited to Mexico for helping Mexico get a muderer off their street.


8 posted on 06/19/2007 6:31:26 AM PDT by Son House ( Democrats are Hostile to Tax Payers.)
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To: K-oneTexas
Congress would rather grant amnesty to these criminals than do what they deserve: deport them. If the federal government can't even send the illegals home who commit additional crimes (other than coming here in the first place), you know that they aren't serious about the rest.

Where's FOX News on this issue?

9 posted on 06/19/2007 6:31:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSM's dumped inner city unemployment stories - Immigration bill conflicts and all....)
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To: Son House
The Feds can get Dog the Bounty Hunter extradited to Mexico for helping Mexico get a muderer off their street.?

They can also get law-biding grandmothers to take off their shoes at airports too!

10 posted on 06/19/2007 6:33:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSM's dumped inner city unemployment stories - Immigration bill conflicts and all....)
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To: Spiff

average annual total of aliens expelled under President Bush is 327,694 LESS than the average under President Clinton

Bush could appoint Clinton to be the ‘illegal alien expulsion zar’.


11 posted on 06/19/2007 6:35:11 AM PDT by Son House ( Democrats are Hostile to Tax Payers.)
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To: K-oneTexas

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12 posted on 06/19/2007 6:35:49 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Son House
I can see putting a citizen in jail for breaking the law. But I've never figured out why we would jail a non-citizen for a crime ... rather that placing them on the first slow-boat back to where ever they came from.

Let weight this on the scales of justice. Cost of a ticket home (boat, plane, strapped to cruise missile, what ever) or keep them in jail (food, rent, medical, TV, sporting equipment, etc) for what ever number of years the sentences was by the judge. Which one is most efficient and cost-effective?

Our State Department and INS must have bigger fish to fry. Although I don't know what.
13 posted on 06/19/2007 6:38:45 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: K-oneTexas

We need an Alcatraz type place where we can dump them and some seeds and tools and let them do or die.


14 posted on 06/19/2007 6:39:17 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: K-oneTexas
I am not as much of an immigration hawk as some here are, but two of my non-negotiable points are
  1. Deport anyone who commits additional crimes (including voting illegally) and
  2. Have a secure enough border to keep them from getting back in.
I believe failure to do these things has resulted in the crime spike we have seen in the last few years.
15 posted on 06/19/2007 6:40:37 AM PDT by murdoog
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To: GOPJ

It wasn’t a murderer, it was a multiple rapist nasty piece of work who ended up with a 154 year prison sentence in the U.S. And heir to the Max Factor fortune, he was on trial in California for drugging women, than raping them and video taping it. He took off during the trial when it began to look like he was going to be convicted. California desperately wanted him back. Dog did a huge service for U.S. Justice, and to the Mexicans for getting him out of their country, and this is the thanks he gets. All I can think of is massive Johnny Sutton syndrome.


16 posted on 06/19/2007 6:44:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: K-oneTexas
Colorado elects Dems, so higher taxes don’t seem to be an issue.

Has their governor made an issue of this? Has he pressured the President?

Has any State Government weighed in on this debate? They should.

17 posted on 06/19/2007 6:45:37 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: K-oneTexas
But I've never figured out why we would jail a non-citizen for a crime

It's because our politicians fear backlashes from foreign sources more than they fear backlashes from us. We need to take our country back and kick these arogant elitists to the curb.
18 posted on 06/19/2007 6:48:39 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: murdoog

2. Have a secure enough border to keep them from getting back in.


That should be the starting point of any process to clean this mess up. If the border was secure to the point of stopping them from entering in the first place and keeping them out if removed then and only then should we move on to more issues in this entire immigration process.


19 posted on 06/19/2007 6:51:45 AM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: sono

Better yet, outsource illegal alien prisoners to India or China. It will be much harder for them to sneak back across our border and if followed through 100% of the time the problem of illegals will dry up in months.


20 posted on 06/19/2007 6:53:48 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Spiff

DHS 2005 Year Book
Deportable Aliens Located 1,291,242
Deportable Aliens Located by Country: Mexico 1,093,282; Honduras 55,775; El Salvador 42,884
Aliens Expelled: Formal Removal 208,521; Voluntary Removal 965,538
Source: http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2005/OIS_2005_Yearbook.pdf


21 posted on 06/19/2007 6:53:50 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: kjo
I have nothing against anyone coming here to become an American but do so legally. The politicians have lost their minds.

Absolutely! They most certainly have.

22 posted on 06/19/2007 6:55:02 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: K-oneTexas
As Michelle Malkin has observed, our immigration system is broken because of paperwork backlogs that stretch on for years. Instead of clearing the existing workload, Congress wants to dump 12-20 million more cases into a system that can't handle what it already has. That makes NO sense whatsoever!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

23 posted on 06/19/2007 6:56:39 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: roses of sharon

Colorado is not a dem state.

They don’t vote along party lines, in general. They are swing voters. They vote for what’s on the table, regardless of party, and most often, those are CONSERVATIVE issues they vote for....except for the liberals/Democrats who have invaded the state from California...and are now changing the political landscape of Colorado.

There are liberal pockets now infested by ex-Californians....those are the people who voted in Salazar when Conservative Ben Nighthorse Campbell retired....who used to be a Democrat but switched to Republican.


24 posted on 06/19/2007 6:58:20 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: K-oneTexas

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25 posted on 06/19/2007 6:59:28 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: nicmarlo

Col gov and State House are Republican?


26 posted on 06/19/2007 7:01:01 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

As I said, Colorado is historically known as a swing state...they will vote for whomever best represents more conservative issues, regardless of party affiliation.

And, over the past 8 years especially, Colorado has been INFESTED with CALIFORNIA LIBERAL transplants. They are voting in liberals.


27 posted on 06/19/2007 7:02:39 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Spiff

THREE employer sanctions in 2004? What a joke! That doesn’t equal the number of parking tickets handed out in the average sized town in one day.


28 posted on 06/19/2007 7:08:03 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: nicmarlo
Yep, Co citizens don’t seem to mind voting in Dems majorities, and a Dem Gov.

So obviously they do not care about illegals.

And border State citizens don’t seem to worried either, since they have been consistently voting for Dims.

IMO, major pressure from States on the Feds would help, but it appears that is not to be.

29 posted on 06/19/2007 7:09:18 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: deport
That should be the starting point of any process to clean this mess up. If the border was secure to the point of stopping them from entering in the first place and keeping them out if removed then and only then should we move on to more issues in this entire immigration process.

Exactly Secure the Borders First so when they are deported they cannot come immediately back across. The identify every last one of them in the Country and then we can talk. Now they want voting rights because they pay taxes -- this is unbelievable and this President is not doing the job he was elected to do IMHO! No place in the Constitution does it say pander to illegals!

30 posted on 06/19/2007 7:09:18 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: GOPJ
"Where's FOX News on this issue?"

Fox news is lock, stock, and barrel in with the pro-amnesty crowd.

All of their well-paid pundits - Barnes, Kondrake, the former Tony Snow, Liasson, Kristol, Williams, Rivera, Morris, etc. are foaming at the mouth in their defense of amnesty and open borders, and in their sladerous assaults on all those who oppose it, calling them bigots (Williams), yahoos (Kristol), nativists and xenophobes (Kondrake), ignorant and nativist (Barnes) and racist (Rivera).

For these pretentious boobs who live in gated communities far removed from day labor sites and overcrowded homes and drunken unlicensed drivers and third-world litter illegal immigration means dollars to the WSJ companies whose stocks they own and cheap bids when the do million dollar remodels to their two million dollar homes.

Does that answer your question on where's Fox?

31 posted on 06/19/2007 7:23:12 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: roses of sharon
Co citizens don’t seem to mind voting in Dems majorities, and a Dem Gov.

I take it you must live/have lived in Colorado, since you know so much about Coloradans, and how they have historically voted?

32 posted on 06/19/2007 7:23:21 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: roses of sharon
So obviously they do not care about illegals.

You live there?

33 posted on 06/19/2007 7:24:05 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: murdoog

Didn’t Duncan Hunter say that crime has dropped dramatically in San Diego since the bit of fence was built? Significant drop ...


34 posted on 06/19/2007 7:24:32 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: metmom
We need an Alcatraz type place where we can dump them and some seeds and tools and let them do or die.

You'd have to send them to Greenland with the sheer numbers we'd have to deal with.

35 posted on 06/19/2007 7:26:24 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: shekkian

Works for me. Or any of the rocks that keep popping out of the Atlantic from volcanic activity and I’m sure there are lots of little islands in the Pacific (ala Guilligan’s Island). It’d be better to spread them out.

Air lift them there and let nature take it’s course.


36 posted on 06/19/2007 7:34:08 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nicmarlo

Obviously the majority of citizens in Co, CA, AZ, and border States are voting for Dims/RINOS and NOT voting for those who are tough on illegals.

Whomever WINS an election reflects majority opinion.

Simple.


37 posted on 06/19/2007 7:39:31 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

And I’ve already told you, it is CALIFORNIA liberal transplants who have infested Colorado who are voting in liberals.

Not born/raised, long-timer, Coloradans.

I would know, I lived in Colorado, for years, long before the wave of Berzerlies from CA infested PARTS of Colorado, i.e., Denver, Steamboat Springs, Telluride, and Boulder.


38 posted on 06/19/2007 7:42:42 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: K-oneTexas

If I came over the border at night from another country and commited murder in Kansas, was caught and had ID saying I was Jose Alvarado would you want to send me home or jail me for my crime?

Send me home and I come back again, commit another murder in Texas was caught and had ID saying I was Jose Martinez. Unless you can get my fingerprints from the arrest in Kansas you won’t know anything about the previous murder.

So send me home again and I come back again. This time as Arturo Hernandez, commit another murder in Arizona. And the same song keeps playing.

How long will it take before you find out my name is actually Roberto Mendez Gastillo and have commited four other murders in America, one in Guatamala, one in Bolivia, two in Mexico that I was never caught for or even suspected of commiting?

If you think murderers should be jailed, what about foreign child molesters, armed robbers, thieves, fraud artists, rapists or whatever kind of criminal. Criminals should be put in jail and made to work. Don’t want to work? Fine, here’s your bread and water.

Build a fence, a real metal fence, not cameras or electronic gadgets and make the penalty strong enough that people want to think twice before they commit the crime.


39 posted on 06/19/2007 7:43:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: oldbill

Sums it up nicely;
just add to this crowd the eye-bulging finger-pointing self-aggrandizing leprechaun, and you have a complete picture of the same old MSM, only under a different sauce.


40 posted on 06/19/2007 7:46:34 AM PDT by arbooz
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To: B4Ranch
I see nothing wrong with a dozen or do Predators armed with missiles flying above the entire length border to give an assist the Border Patrol and the double fence. Maybe even a new job for the National Guard, paying them rather than welfare to the law breakers.

Support LEGAL IMMIGRATION ... nothing less.
41 posted on 06/19/2007 7:51:25 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: nicmarlo
LOL, I know, I hear you!

BUT, they are there, they are a political reality, they vote, and don’t seem to care about high taxes or illegals, obviously, like all libs.

As with the other border States, if their majorities continue to be libs, as VOTED in by their citizens, then they are PROVING that illegals are not such a problem for them.

My point is that the Feds will NEVER get tough on illegals when the illegals HAVE THE MAJORITY OF POLITICAL POWER.

If we had border State Governors and citizens consistently voting for anti-illegal pols, and putting major pressure on the President and the FEDS, with an organized public campaign, pols in DC would HAVE to respond.

There is nothing wrong with political power, and if we had it, we would not be facing this horrible bill.

And where to get that political power?

Grassroots in the States, where we are losing right now.

42 posted on 06/19/2007 7:55:21 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon
And where to get that political power? Grassroots in the States, where we are losing right now.

We'll see....the sleeping giant just *might* FINALLY be awakening!

43 posted on 06/19/2007 7:59:51 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: K-oneTexas
If we can't deport them, let's put them to work (like the Arizona resurrected chain gangs) while they're incarcerated. They won't be making any money to send back to their familias and we can get some much-needed public projects completed at a low cost for labor!

Make lemonade out of lemons.

44 posted on 06/19/2007 8:04:45 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (actually I am really a Fed Up Republican! I am, however, Proudly Conservative)
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To: nicmarlo

We moved to Idaho to escape the Californian invasion of Colorado Springs. Really miss the views of the front range of the Rockies. Now the Californian’s have started to invade Idaho. They already screwed up their state and now fleeing the mess they made they want to force policies that screw up every community they move into. Liberals never learn from their mistakes.


45 posted on 06/19/2007 8:05:04 AM PDT by KC-10A BOOMER (Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue)
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To: KC-10A BOOMER
Liberals never learn from their mistakes.

As soon as they make living conditions intolerable and trashed...they traipse off in search of new places to destroy and decimate.

46 posted on 06/19/2007 8:10:46 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: B4Ranch

[Unless you can get my fingerprints from the arrest in Kansas you won’t know anything about the previous murder.]

All felons are printed and matches come back within minutes. Not infallible, of course but one of the few Government programs that seems to work well.


47 posted on 06/19/2007 8:30:50 AM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: arbooz

To whom do you refer?


48 posted on 06/19/2007 8:33:58 AM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: dbacks

Why, o’reilly, of course. The one who’s “looking out for the folks”, you know. The “holier than thou” jerry rivers’ best buddy.
Was my description a bit too vague?


49 posted on 06/19/2007 10:52:35 AM PDT by arbooz
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To: murdoog
ICE is just as inept and corrupt as its predecessor. They claim "limited resources" as their excuse not to pick up incarcerated illegals, but they have plenty of time to bust working stiffs with young kids to grab headlines. They found plenty of time here to bust a guy who broke no laws (other than overstaying a visa) but just happened at one time to have been the boyfriend of a gal an ICE agent wanted.

That agency needs a serious shakeup.

50 posted on 06/19/2007 11:14:55 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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