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Irshad Manji: Islam the problem
The Australian ^ | June 20 2007 | Irshad Manji

Posted on 06/20/2007 2:31:04 PM PDT by knighthawk

GROWING up in Vancouver, I attended an Islamic school every Saturday. There, I learned that Jews can't be trusted because they worship "moolah, not Allah", meaning money, not God. According to my teacher, every last Jew is consumed with business. But looking around my neighbourhood, I noticed that most of the new business signs featured Asian languages: Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Hindi, Punjabi and plenty of Urdu. Not Hebrew, Urdu, which is spoken throughout Pakistan.

That reality check made me ask: What if my religious school isn't educating me? What if it's indoctrinating me?

I'm reminded of this question thanks to the news that Salman Rushdie, author of The Satanic Verses and 10 other works of fiction, will be knighted by the Queen.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crushislam; irshadmanji; islam; muslims

1 posted on 06/20/2007 2:31:08 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
I'm offended that every year, there are more women killed in Pakistan for allegedly violating their family's honour than there are detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

Muslims have rightly denounced the mistreatment of Gitmo prisoners. But where's our outrage over the murder of many more Muslims at the hands of our own?

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 06/20/2007 2:32:44 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

“What if it’s indoctrinating me?”

A moozie that gets it.

I wonder how long he’ll keep his religion (or his life for that matter.)


3 posted on 06/20/2007 2:34:33 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: knighthawk
The following article should eliminate any doubt Islam's goal it to rule the world as did the Nazi's attempt.

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. Of Two - Faced Muslims
4 posted on 06/20/2007 2:38:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: knighthawk

I read the whole article, then chased her website.....here’s an interesting paragraph from the homepage:

There is only one way to decrease the the influence of the desert on Islam: liberate Mecca and Medina from the Saudis. The next step is to make a universal administration of those cities. Something like the Vatican. Mecca and Medina and holy places of Muslims and thus it belongs to all Muslims, not just the Arabs.

http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/


5 posted on 06/20/2007 2:45:41 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Mrs.Z
"I wonder how long he’ll keep his religion (or his life for that matter.)"

I think "he" is a she.
6 posted on 06/20/2007 2:46:32 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Mrs.Z

She’s a woman and a lesbian and has had many threats on her life.


7 posted on 06/20/2007 2:48:14 PM PDT by spyone
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

The problem is that Islam is actually an Arab superiority cult; in other words, Arab superiority is its very reason for being, although non-Arab Muslims may not realize that.

Mohammed was from one of the many bandit Arab tribes that lived in that area at the time, living off a little bit of herding and a little bit of caravan raiding. His “visions” were essentially his way of extending his bandit empire over the more civilized parts of the ME, which at that time (after the collapse of the Roman Empire) was vulnerable because it was without a protector or a unifying force.

Since Arab culture was essentially non existent, having virtually no art, literature or thought of its own, it was easy for him to impose this on the cultures he conquered. They would have a brief period where the Arabs would profit from whatever the culture’s native strengths were (for example, the advanced science of the Persians), and then the nihilism and iron control of the theocracy that is Islam would snuff out that culture and bring its people into the ignorant darkness of Islam. But Mohammed and his tribe profited enormously from this, and being descended from Mohammed (although he had no male descendants) is vitally important in Islam and gives these descendents all sorts of special status.

So essentially, Islam is Arab, and there’s no way of taking the Arab out of Islam. And even if you could, you’d still be left with the same dark, violent, life-denying theocracy, so it wouldn’t matter much in any case.


8 posted on 06/20/2007 2:56:15 PM PDT by livius
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To: knighthawk
Another excerpt from the article:
As a Muslim, you better believe I'm offended - by these absurd reactions.

I'm offended that it is not the first time honours from the West have met with vitriol and violence. In 1979, Pakistani physicist Abdus Salam became the first Muslim to win the Nobel Prize in science. He began his acceptance speech with a verse from the Koran.

Salam's country ought to have celebrated him. Instead, rioters tried to prevent him from re-entering the country. Parliament even declared him a non-Muslim because he belonged to a religious minority. His name continues to be controversial, invoked by state authorities in hushed tones.

Wow! I don't think I have ever heard about this.

ML/NJ

9 posted on 06/20/2007 3:05:55 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Mrs.Z

The author is a woman.


10 posted on 06/20/2007 3:10:23 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: knighthawk

The fact that Muhammad said that the world would end in the year 1011 should give them a clue...


11 posted on 06/20/2007 3:17:01 PM PDT by OK
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To: knighthawk

Mistreatment? MIStreatment? Try being THEIR captive and then examine the differences.


12 posted on 06/20/2007 3:36:13 PM PDT by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Mrs.Z

“I wonder how long he’ll keep his religion (or his life for that matter.)”

I agree

I’ve seen her interviewed a couple of times and it always strikes me that eventually she will surely realize that Islam is both utterly incompatible with modernity and incapable of being reformed.

In order to reform Islam to something peaceful and tolerant, whole swaths of the Quran would need to be deleted.


13 posted on 06/20/2007 4:00:10 PM PDT by Stand W (Fetchez La Vache!)
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To: knighthawk; All

Thank you knighthawk for pointing this article.
I do appreciate it.

#

As an aside...

After 9-11-01, I posted a small tribute/memorial page regarding the
attacks on 9/11.

Surprisingly (to me), a number of the links linking to it and/or visiting the site were people who did not like Americans and absolutely hated Jews. And oh yes, hate for Christians was right at the top of the list, too.

Well, well, from that moment of realization, my research changed.
Now, I know what hate 24/7 is all about.
I will not be surprised at all when America is attacked again.


14 posted on 06/21/2007 7:13:44 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

In my country some people hate both Israel and the US and blame them for just about everything they can think of. There is even a book about this matter. Started reading it but need to finish it.


15 posted on 06/22/2007 9:16:53 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

“...some people hate both Israel and the US and blame them for just about everything they can think of.”

Yep, that is basically the heart of the problem.


16 posted on 06/22/2007 1:00:10 PM PDT by Cindy
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