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Immigration bill in four easy pieces
The Politico ^ | Jun 21, 2007 | Carrie Budoff

Posted on 06/21/2007 6:09:07 AM PDT by gpapa

If Congress and comprehensive immigration legislation were a couple, they would need to see a therapist right about now.

While the Senate struggles to find time to return to the bill, critics of its comprehensive approach have been filling the void by increasingly pressing the question: Is it time for a breakup?

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; unions

1 posted on 06/21/2007 6:09:09 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

I’ve been telling my Senators to do it in steps. Makes sense to me.


2 posted on 06/21/2007 6:13:43 AM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: gpapa

The comments on this piece are priceless...


3 posted on 06/21/2007 6:15:42 AM PDT by cryptotech (Remember the Alamo - Remember Goliad)
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To: gpapa

It’s a lot easier to hide the BS in a “comprehensive” bill.


4 posted on 06/21/2007 6:27:03 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: gpapa
The Senate bill establishes a system for employers to check the legal status of workers, Chertoff said. "Without that, it is like asking the Border Patrol to do the whole thing by standing on the border. Enforce the law? I say, give me the tools to do it," Chertoff said.

How about we give you any tools you need absent all the other garbage, Chertoff? Or are you telling us that you are so incompetent that you need more tools to do your job - even though there were vastly more workplace actions during the Clinton Administration, without those tools?

New tools are not what is lacking here. What is lacking is any real will to enforce the law. And new tools will not change that. Once the Bush Admin gets shamnesty, all the new tools will never be used.

5 posted on 06/21/2007 6:30:50 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: dynachrome

“It’s a lot easier to hide the BS in a “comprehensive” bill.”

Disagree, They couldn’t hide it thus far, but breaking it up into parts, and how those parts are presented provides opportunity to spin and confuse the issue, thus causing the electorate to tune out due head spin. That is the Pro Amnesty goal. Confuse and diffuse.

For your safety, and mine the Kill-the-bill-period tactic is truly less confusing and effective. We have existing laws that easily could handle the situation.


6 posted on 06/21/2007 6:34:50 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

“couldn’t hide it thus far”
I dunno. I downloaded the 20.4 megabytes of the current version. I cannot comprehend it. The language used is sanskrit to me.


7 posted on 06/21/2007 6:37:23 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: dirtboy
How about we give you any tools you need absent all the other garbage, Chertoff?

Skeltor is to incompetent to tie his shoe's.

8 posted on 06/21/2007 6:44:43 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: cryptotech

I read the comments. They are great. It’s almost like reading Free Republic!


9 posted on 06/21/2007 6:48:09 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: dynachrome
Plus in a "comprehensive" bill, it is easier for the administration to focus on the parts it wants (like amnesty) and ignore, defund or slow-walk the parts it doesn't want (increase enforcement and workplace verification).

Having a comprehensive bill is like giving a child a meal of chicken nuggets, green beans and ice cream all at once. Don't be too surprised that the child is "stuffed" after eating the nuggets and ice cream and can't possibly eat a single green bean - and then asks for another bowl of ice cream.

10 posted on 06/21/2007 6:50:19 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: dynachrome

“I downloaded the 20.4 megabytes of the current version. I cannot comprehend it. The language used is sanskrit to me.”

LOL...Eyes glazed over eh? I can well understand, and I can understand how breaking it up could be thought as easier to comprehend, but it does provide ample opportunity for the Pro Amnestite’s to perform the old con trick shell game. Confuse to diffuse opposition to their will.

Breaking it up will benefit Pro Amnesty Globalists. Kill the Bill will work better for United States of America.


11 posted on 06/21/2007 6:58:31 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Comprehensive is an oxymoron. The bill neither revises the overly comples maze of legal immigration nor the bureaucracy that is woefully behind in implementing it.


12 posted on 06/21/2007 7:12:18 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: gpapa

“Without that (CIR), it is like asking the Border Patrol to do the whole thing by standing on the border. Enforce the law? I say, give me the tools to do it,” Chertoff said.

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Open note to Chertoff:

If you are afraid to or are incapable of doing your job, express a desire to deputize Americans who ARE willing and we, the American Patriots, WILL.


13 posted on 06/21/2007 7:48:55 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: dynachrome

Treason isn’t BS


14 posted on 06/21/2007 8:39:02 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: gpapa

Michael Chertoff - The Hans Blix of Homeland Security


15 posted on 06/21/2007 8:43:16 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: N. Theknow
Once we kill this bill again, I'm all in favor of a mass campaign to get Chertoff impeached and removed from office. Anyone who tries to hold enforcement hostage to shamnesty is not fit for that office. It's too important to leave in the hands of such a hack.

Throw in DHS complicity for getting the BP agents sent to prison, and the inability to track visa overstays six years after 9-11, and you have a solid case for a change in that department.

16 posted on 06/21/2007 8:55:19 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: gpapa

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


17 posted on 06/22/2007 3:26:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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