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An All-Submarine Navy(?)
OpinionEditorials ^ | 6-19-07 | Mike Burleson

Posted on 06/21/2007 7:37:25 AM PDT by SShultz460

Last week, the third in a new class of underwater battleships, the USS MICHIGAN, joined the fleet after a $1 billion face lift. The 4 converted subs of the OHIO class, former Trident missile ships, are the undersea equivalent of the reborn IOWA class from the 1980’s. Armed with over 150 Tomahawk cruise missiles, plus the ability to carry special forces and unmanned vehicles, they give the Navy an incredible ability to strike decisively from the sea.

I am of the opinion that in full-scale shooting war at sea, the US surface navy will be devastated in the first day., by the combination of cruise missiles and stealthy submarines. The survivors would all be forced into port, unable to participate in the counterattack, which would likely be initiated by our own deadly nuclear attack submarines.

What this means is, our current force of colossal and pricey warships including aircraft carriers, cruisers, destroyers, and amphibious ships are obsolete in today’s precision, push button warfare. They are also tremendously expensive to build and operate, with only the richest of earth’s superpowers able to afford them in ever declining numbers. If this wasn’t reason enough for maritime nations to reevaluate their shipbuilding priorities, there are few if any jobs the surface fleet can do which the submarine cannot. I’ll elaborate:

Command of the Sea

Submariners say there are only 2 types of ships: submarines and targets. There’s valid reasons for this. Since World War 2 anti-submarine defenses have failed to match the attack boat’s advancements in speed, stealth, and weaponry. For instance, since 1945 the average speed of destroyers have remained at 30 knots, with only nuclear vessels able to maintain this rate for any period. In contrast, the velocity of nuclear attack submarines, beginning with the launch of USS NAUTILUS in 1954, has tripled and quadrupled from around 10 knots submerged to 30-40 knots.

Also, an antisubmarine vessel must get within a few miles of an enemy sub to fire its rockets or torpedoes. Its only long-range defense, the helicopter, is slow and must linger in a vulnerable hover while its sonar buoys seek out their prey. Some Russian-built boats come equipped with anti-aircraft missiles which makes this standard ASW tactic suicidal.

In contrast, a modern submarine can launch its missiles from 75 miles away and farther. Should it choose to close the distance, as occurred when a Chinese SONG class stalked the USS KITTY HAWK last year, to fire its ship killing torpedoes, it can do so at speeds as fast as and sometimes surpassing surface warships. Whether attacking with cruise missiles or wake-homing torpedoes the attack boat remains submerged; the preeminent stealth vessel.

The sub has likely held this dominate position on the high seas, since the dawn of the first nuke ships beginning in the 1950’s. The only lacking factor has been a full-scale naval war to prove it. The single example is the sinking of the Argentine cruiser BELGRANO 25 years ago by the British submarine HMS CONQUEROR in the Falklands Conflict. Afterward, the Argentine Navy fled to port and remained there!

Commerce Raiding/Protection:

This traditional role of the submarine is one which it excelled in the last century. The difference today is, neither America nor Britain has the capability to mass produce the thousands of anti-submarine escorts which just barely defeated Germany’s U-boats in 2 world wars, even if it would matter. In the next war at sea, the submarine would bring all commerce to a halt, making a mockery of the globalized free market system. The only counter to this menace is perhaps a combination of aircraft and submarine escorts, with the latter acting as the destroyer, shepherding its convoy through the “shark” ridden waters.

Amphibious Assault

Admittedly, this is not a role in which the submarine excels at , with its sparse crew and cargo capacity. Where they do stand out is the ability to land small raiding parties, like the elite Navy SEALs, and underwater demolition teams in preparation for a full-scale assault.

Still, with the submarine maintaining command of the seas, it would allow a surface amphibious task force free reign against an enemy beachhead. Rather than requiring expensive standing amphibs, reserve vessels could be maintained on both our coasts, with a cadre crew ready for any emergency. Some could also be rapidly converted with landing strips for heloes or whatever air assets are needed. Some small and inexpensive littoral ships fitted with cannon could provide escort close to shore.

For standard peacekeeping operations, some large subs could be built or converted for troop carrying, as in the above mentioned MICHIGAN. The ex-ballistic missile warship and her three sisters can load up to 66 SEALs, or more, I imagine, in a pinch, plus their equipment.

Conclusion

If America were to suddenly lose her preeminent surface fleet of carrier groups in such a future conflict, she would still have an excellent and capable submarine force to carry the fight to the enemy. The Navy says it must build 2 boats per year to maintain 50 in commission. Perhaps a doubling or tripling of this number would be necessary to replace the surface ships in the manner I propose. A fleet of 100-150 nuke submarines would be far cheaper to maintain, but also doubtless give the USN an unmatched mastery at sea for the rest of the century.

My blog is at newwars.blogspot.com

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Mike Burleson is a regular columnist with Sea Classics magazine and an advocate of Military Reform. He resides in historic Charleston, SC. http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/honestnews/ http://newwars.blogspot.com/

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1 posted on 06/21/2007 7:37:29 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: SShultz460

“Submariners say there are only 2 types of ships: submarines and targets”

Wow - aint that something to ponder.


2 posted on 06/21/2007 7:39:33 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; Dog Gone; ..
Submariners say there are only 2 types of ships: submarines and targets. . . .

One Ping Only!

3 posted on 06/21/2007 7:40:52 AM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: spanalot

Actually we say there are only two types of vessels submarines and targets.

Ships on the surface. Submarines are called boats.


4 posted on 06/21/2007 7:41:07 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: SShultz460

So far as I know, new destroyers may be slower than WW2 counterparts. I believe Fletcher Class DDs were capable of speeds as high as 35 to 38 knots. I am correct on that?

I love aircraft carriers, but if they are attacked by waves of cruise missiles launched from a long way out, how would one evade and survive?

Interesting post, thanks.


5 posted on 06/21/2007 7:42:43 AM PDT by RexBeach (Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: spanalot

6 posted on 06/21/2007 7:43:14 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: SShultz460
Submarines are good. Submarines are grand. But,

They make terrible aircraft carriers, and.

A single technological breakthrough that ‘renders the sea transparent’ puts the entire fleet at risk.

7 posted on 06/21/2007 7:44:08 AM PDT by null and void (Tired of living in the shadows? Move to Sunny Mexico!)
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To: SmithL

I’ll lay it out...

Nuke ELT MM2(SS)

:)


8 posted on 06/21/2007 7:44:25 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: spanalot
I worked for the Navy for 8 years, and I know a lot of aviators that would violently disagree with this analysis. Aircraft cannot take off from a sub. In a full scale war with China or Russia, this analysis has a lot of validity, but the likelihood of such a war is remote. We still need surface ships and carriers to extend our power to protect our forces, allies and the sea lanes from all the other bad guys in the world.
9 posted on 06/21/2007 7:45:17 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: RexBeach

Seawolf class challenges that speed, I won’t go further


10 posted on 06/21/2007 7:45:45 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: edcoil

Great Lakes ore carriers are also “boats.”


11 posted on 06/21/2007 7:46:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: SShultz460
Well, if the only function a navy has is controlling the seas, this submarines are the way to go. If you want to control the air over the oceans, or project power ashore you need surface vessels.

I think Mr. Burleson’s vision of what a navy is for seems pretty one-dimensional.

12 posted on 06/21/2007 7:46:28 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: All

I forgot former...

I been civi for the last 5 years


13 posted on 06/21/2007 7:46:42 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: SShultz460

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


14 posted on 06/21/2007 7:46:48 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: bmwcyle

Been there done that :)


15 posted on 06/21/2007 7:48:04 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

Thought provoking article. We may well see in the near future if his arguments have any merit. We now have 3 or 4 carrier battle groups in the Persian Gulf...as a counter to Iran. It’s a small body of water, and the Chinese made Silkworm missiles..mounted on shore and on Iranian missile gunboats...are a threat to the carriers.


16 posted on 06/21/2007 7:48:55 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I agree, subs are simply part of a full solution and anyone thinking just one platform would work - don’t know what they are talking about.

Surface ships do have a lot of defense on them however, one subroc would ruin a convoy’s day.


17 posted on 06/21/2007 7:49:03 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Jeff Head

FYI


18 posted on 06/21/2007 7:49:20 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: SShultz460
This guy is a retard poser.

I'd like to see ANY fleet in the world...or combined fleet...challenge a combined US Carrier task force at sea.

While there may be some risk in coastal waters, noting can compete with a full battle group. They bring subs for sub-surface protection...and the aircover makes all the difference.

If you want the ability to P R O J E C T power, there's no substitute.

19 posted on 06/21/2007 7:50:21 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: edcoil
Ships on the surface. Submarines are called boats.

In Chappaquiddick they call them oldsmobiles.
20 posted on 06/21/2007 7:50:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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