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How conservative is Fred Thompson?
Washington Times ^ | 06/23/2007 | Editiorial

Posted on 06/23/2007 7:19:15 AM PDT by etradervic

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To: RasterMaster
Shall I list the unconstitutional, liberal, big-spending items that Hunter voted for?

I wouldn’t consider miliary spending “LIEberal”...up-armored Humvees, better body armor, or new technology for the military...

I wasn't refering to Hunter's military spending. If you are implying that I did, that would be a lie. As I said, Shall I list the unconstitutional, liberal, big-spending items that Hunter voted for?

101 posted on 06/23/2007 10:19:00 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: napscoordinator

Hunter WON’T be President. .


102 posted on 06/23/2007 10:20:11 AM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: Dahoser

Matalin is a negative, but others, like Zach Wamp, are major positives. I think he’s simply running the bases here and getting help from all sides of the GOP.

Strategy, folks.


103 posted on 06/23/2007 10:21:00 AM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: RasterMaster
“We can not deport 12 million illegal aliens.” Fred Thompson Can’t have it both ways. The law is illegals are deported when caught. “Path to citizenship”, “temporary work visa” whatever you call it, it’s same as what Bush is pushing...anything short of deportation is AMNESTY.

No, when work place laws are enforced many will deport on their own. As I said, Thompson has said that he is against amnesty and that he's for enforcement.

104 posted on 06/23/2007 10:21:36 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: billbears
As a simple man, I have only five issues:

National Security and the aggressive pursuit of the war against Jihad.

Seal the border and grant NO AMNESTY.

Appoint strict constructionists to the USSC.

Reduce BOTH taxes and spending.

Win, so that we have a snowballs chance for the above.

It's now a two man race in the GOP between Rudy and Fred. I could live with either based on the issues that matter to me. I believe either could win the general election as Hillary and Obama are un-electable. Perhaps Gore is un-electable now that he's a movie maker.

I have high confidence for the Presidency in 2008...but I'm really concerned about the Senate. Only about 1/2 to 2/3 of the GOP caucus is on the right side of my issues and a handful of Dims on the right side of the big ones.

I advocate we focus on these RINOs in the Senate and drive them out of town.

105 posted on 06/23/2007 10:22:11 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: RasterMaster

Spinning it like the MSM, I see.


106 posted on 06/23/2007 10:22:18 AM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: Reagan Man

Is it illegal to enter the country ILLEGALLY??? The laws on the books say they can be imprisoned and/or deported. How is it “off the wall” to follow the law.

I can invite a few (million) friends over to your house and that’s okay with you? Don’t put up a fence to stop me, cause that might “obfuscate” the issue.

Just remember though, you can’t send me home, nor can you detain any of my friends. You must give me food, shelter and FREE HEALTHCARE!

Here’s a few of the “friends” you’ve allowed in to stay indefinately....

http://www.google.com/search?q=illegal+mexican+kill&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7HPIC


107 posted on 06/23/2007 10:23:19 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy, Romney & McCain = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party - Duncan Hunter, President 2008)
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To: Reagan Man

If they don’t leave on their own or are deported that means they get to stay right? And for them to leave on their own the government doesn’t have to do anything. He is not totally wrong.


108 posted on 06/23/2007 10:23:44 AM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: FreeReign; RasterMaster
"We solve the security problem first. .... no amnesty or nothing blanket like that".

~~~ Fred Thompson on Fox News Sunday, March. 11, 2007

YouTube LINK

109 posted on 06/23/2007 10:25:28 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: FreeReign

“Thompson has said that he is against amnesty and that he’s for enforcement.”

Doesn’t Bush say the same thing? No one is in favor of amnesty if you ask them. Even Ted Kennedy says he is against it.


110 posted on 06/23/2007 10:26:31 AM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: FreeReign

He’s for AMNESTY....same as Bush. Both say “can’t deport” when it’s proven you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkN2fYnMTBs

If Fred is truly for ENFORCEMENT, then he would support deportation since that IS the law.


111 posted on 06/23/2007 10:27:08 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy, Romney & McCain = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party - Duncan Hunter, President 2008)
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To: DieselHoplite
Thompson has said that he is against amnesty and that he’s for enforcement.

Doesn’t Bush say the same thing? No one is in favor of amnesty if you ask them. Even Ted Kennedy says he is against it.

Bush is for the visa amnesty bill. Thompson is against the visa amnesty bill.

112 posted on 06/23/2007 10:29:22 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RasterMaster
He’s for AMNESTY....same as Bush. Both say “can’t deport” when it’s proven you can. If Fred is truly for ENFORCEMENT, then he would support deportation since that IS the law.

No. Fred said that you can't deport 12 million. Fred did say that he is for enforcement which means that some would get deported, some will leave on their own and some will go into hidding.

113 posted on 06/23/2007 10:31:16 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

But he is in favor of giving aspirations of citizenship and says illegals can’t be deported.


114 posted on 06/23/2007 10:31:43 AM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: RasterMaster
>>>>>>How is it “off the wall” to follow the law.

I never said that. My post referred to your convoluted analogy in #97. Sillytalk will not solve the issue.

If the Feds secure the borders FIRST, enforce existing employer sanctions contained in the IRCA of 1986 and end ALL government handouts to illegals, most alien intruders will leave of their own volition.

AGAIN --- anything short of deportation IS NOT amnesty and to say it is, obfuscates the real problems associated with the current outcry for more liberal immigration reform being promoted by so many of our elected officials.

115 posted on 06/23/2007 10:33:56 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: RockinRight

Zach does make me feel better. Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll keep an eye on who else joins the team.


116 posted on 06/23/2007 10:35:50 AM PDT by Dahoser (Never question Mr. Nibbles!)
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To: FreeReign

Thompson can say what he thinks people will support, but you get more of the same NON ENFORCEMENT rhetoric. “Path to citizenship” is already established. Those not following that path have entered illegally and committed a FEDERAL crime. If you forgive them for their crime, as in “path to citizenship” that is AMNESTY.

They face imprisonment, fines and DEPORTATION. If you didn’t respect the law to get here, the new hoops and hurdles won’t be respected. We don’t need new law, just people that won’t read into current law whatever they like.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/8/chapters/12/subchapters/ii/parts/viii/sections/section_1325.html

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/isacrime.html


117 posted on 06/23/2007 10:38:02 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy, Romney & McCain = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party - Duncan Hunter, President 2008)
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To: Brices Crossroads
"For intense activists, it is a very important issue, but I submit that a wrong vote on that issue should not per se brand that person as a liberal or unacceptable."

Sorry, but there are certain issues that are so blatantly wrong-headed as to totally contaminate candidates. For me, CFR is one of them--McCain has sworn oaths several times to support and defend the Constitution---not gut it.

There is a difference between being misled (as Reagan was with the abortion bill), and just ignoring the Constitution (as McCain did).

118 posted on 06/23/2007 10:38:29 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: TomGuy

If you like being a GOP-bot, be a bot, but I’m not.

Actually, I’m not. I am Christian Conservative. I vote for the candidate that most nearly matches my convictions. Most assuredly, neither of which is on the, as Ann Coulter accurately labels them, the Godless Democrat party.

As to third party, they may field a better candidate reflecting my convictions, however, I won’t be voting that direction, it amounts to a vote for the Democrats.

The avoidance of which, obviously means nothing to you. You are open to even voting for a Democrat. Downright troubling that there are Freepers who would countenance such a thing.


119 posted on 06/23/2007 10:42:56 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: Reagan Man

Fred doesn’t support a fence, doesn’t support employer sanctions, but DOES support amnesty for those who have broken the law. Folksy charm and sugarcoating isn’t going to solve the issue either.

http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/05/fred-thompson-no-restrictionist.html


120 posted on 06/23/2007 10:49:31 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy, Romney & McCain = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party - Duncan Hunter, President 2008)
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