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To: Alamo-Girl
You are strictly, by your own admission, a religious apologist. You should not even presume to hold scientific opinions because you do not meet the qualifications for doing so.
Such attempts to impeach my credibility are merely amusing.

Again I aver that methodological naturalism reduces the scope of inquiry for science and therefore it cannot investigate truth. That is the domain of theology and philosophy.

The only point I have been discussing is your credibility in the fields of science. You keep making statements about science, but you have, by your own posts, shown that you do not have the qualification (adherence to the scientific method) to make those statements.

This is further demonstrated by a comment you made a few weeks ago, "The most certain - and therefore, highest priority - type of knowledge for me is divine revelation."

Because you have abandoned the scientific method, and have accepted "divine revelation" as the most certain type of knowledge, you are absolutely unqualified to make pronouncements about science.

Further, you have given up the one tool you could have used to objectively compare and evaluate "divine revelations" -- of which millions are claimed. You are left with your own personal belief system and no way to evaluate it against others' belief systems.

You are reduced to claiming your's is the right one because you believe it and using rhetoric, theology, and metaphysics to try to justify your a priori belief.

Please don't mistake that for doing science.

481 posted on 07/02/2007 9:03:48 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman; Alamo-Girl
Because you have abandoned the scientific method, and have accepted "divine revelation" as the most certain type of knowledge, you are absolutely unqualified to make pronouncements about science.

Jeepers, Coyoteman, you are jumping to (unwarranted) conclusions again...

486 posted on 07/02/2007 9:31:07 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: Coyoteman; Alamo-Girl
You are reduced to claiming your's is the right one because you believe it and using rhetoric, theology, and metaphysics to try to justify your a priori belief.

Are you claiming to have no "a priori beliefs?"

487 posted on 07/02/2007 9:32:35 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: Coyoteman; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[... Because you have abandoned the scientific method, and have accepted "divine revelation" as the most certain type of knowledge, you are absolutely unqualified to make pronouncements about science. ..]

Hoo Wee.. you're puffed up like a cat poised sidewise trying to appear larger than you are.. Hissssing..

AND you; who appointed you science monitor..
Is "Anti-Divine Revelation" the Holy Grail?..

You still have not told us What matter is, YET?..
WELL... What is it?..

493 posted on 07/02/2007 9:57:09 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Coyoteman; betty boop; hosepipe; cornelis; .30Carbine; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; TXnMA; MHGinTN; ...
I’m amused at how deeply it offends you that I value divine revelation above all other forms of knowledge including sensory perception and reasoning. Evidently you are so deeply offended, you feel obliged to follow me from thread-to-thread essentially saying "Don't believe her comments on science, she's a Christian. Bah!"

LOLOL! And thank you for the compliment.

All Christians have received at least one, direct divine revelation from God – when it dawned in us that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. – I Cor 12:3

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. – Matt 16:17

And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. – John 6:65

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:27

By your comments, I take it that you believe my loving and believing and trusting God surpassing above all else somehow impeaches my credibility altogether concerning science. If only you could "get" the joke... LOL!

Evidently, you do not know Him. But I do. I’ve known Him personally for nearly a half century.

When the day comes that you meet Him – and that day will come – then you will understand that our mortal sensory perception and reasoning has ever been constrained by our being anchored “in” space/time. Our vision and minds are limited to four dimensions.

When the “blinders” are removed – and you can see what we Christians see, and hear what we Christians hear – then you will realize that physical reality is but a fraction of the Father’s revelation – not the whole of it (the emphasized one below.)

God the Father has revealed Himself in four ways: through His only begotten Son Jesus Christ by Whom and for Whom every thing is made, through the indwelling Holy Spirit, through Scriptures and through Creation, both spiritual and physical.

If one is not aware of – or does not acknowledge the existence of - the other divine revelations, then he will surely not appreciate many of my comments. But that in itself does not impeach my credibility concerning math or science.

Indeed, those who are aware of the “rest of the story” – no doubt also see physical reality in context with “all that there is.”

496 posted on 07/02/2007 10:12:18 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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