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To: tacticalogic; Alamo-Girl; Coyoteman; hosepipe
Which results in difference of opinions and beliefs about who does and doesn't suffer from the "observer problem", it seems.

Everybody "suffers" from the observer problem! It cannot be obviated under any conditions at all. It deals with our limited perspective as cognizing human beings that results in necessarily partial knowledge.

IOW, "the observer problem" is not a stick with which to beat one's opponent; it is a universal human condition. I have it; you have it; we all have it.

500 posted on 07/02/2007 10:26:41 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: betty boop
Everybody "suffers" from the observer problem! It cannot be obviated under any conditions at all. It deals with our limited perspective as cognizing human beings that results in necessarily partial knowledge.

IOW, "the observer problem" is not a stick with which to beat one's opponent; it is a universal human condition. I have it; you have it; we all have it.

I understand. What I don't understand (without attribututing motives) is how it is that asking questions based on the assumption that theologians may suffer from it the same as scientists seems to be taken as an unfair tactic.

503 posted on 07/02/2007 10:37:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Darwin’s House: A Religious Shrine?

“An article quoted Darwin scholar James Moore saying, ‘Muslims go to Mecca, Christians go to Jerusalem, Darwinians go to Downe.’ This seems to equate Darwinians with believers in a religion, but Nature quoted this proudly.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://creationsafaris.com/crev200706.htm#20070628a

And let’s not forget Richard Dawkins, a scientists who speaks for millions of the Darwinist faithful:

“In 2005 online magazine ‘Edge The World Question Centre’ posed the following question to a number of scientific intellectuals: ‘What do you believe is true even though you cannot prove it?’ Dawkins revealingly answered: ‘I believe that all life, all intelligence, all creativity and all ‘design’ anywhere in the universe, is the direct or indirect product of Darwinian natural selection.’”

http://www.iscid.org/papers/Williams_GodDelusionReview_02012007.pdf

Sounds like religion to me-—GGG


518 posted on 07/02/2007 11:10:00 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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