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To: GunRunner; Alamo-Girl
Hi GunRunner!

You seem to be suggesting that somehow logic and reason are antithetical to faith and the divine. Jeepers, if it weren't for the divinity, there would be no logic or reason. There is nothing more "logical" than the Logos.

I would urge you to think through your supposition....

546 posted on 07/02/2007 12:40:28 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: betty boop
Excellent.
549 posted on 07/02/2007 12:45:58 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
I would urge you to think through your supposition....

Over many years I have.

But the divine that springs forth from logic is just as easily rebuffed using the same tools. I've yet to find any real logical explanation for the very short list of problems I have with the Judeo-Christian God in post 537, but it is not for the faithfuls' lack of trying.

My problem with their arguments to me is that they seem stuck to the fact that I'm not "seeing" something that they are "seeing". They try logic and reason (even science sometimes, which makes it real fun), but they always come back to the non-empirical and esoteric dictums of faith and salvation.

If slavery is wrong, and God is always right, why did God not say "Free your slaves, no matter how much it costs you". The believers can twist themselves into all types of knots trying to explain this, but a much more believable explanation to me is that the writers of the Bible had no problem with slavery, and as such, neither did the God they created.

553 posted on 07/02/2007 12:50:58 PM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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