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Iraq - 'Chemical Ali' and two former Saddam officials sentenced to death by hanging
AFP via translation | June 24, 2007

Posted on 06/24/2007 1:54:11 AM PDT by HAL9000

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To: JB in Whitefish

Get some help, buddy!
Your stuck in the mud.
Start living for goodness sakes.


61 posted on 06/24/2007 12:10:03 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Don’t do that.
We must have compassion.
Our shipmate needs us.


62 posted on 06/24/2007 12:11:29 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: JB in Whitefish

“People in the military have bad experience with military healthcare.

You had a six year enlistment and you only serve three years?

You were released from active duty for a physical disability in 1970?

Did you get 100% disabiltity pension from the government since 1970?

Many people experience terrible things. Sometimes you have to draw the line and start living.

You can’t be bogged down by the past.

Sometimes you need to talk to someone who is professional.”

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Ahhhh...so you DID actually get around to reading some of what I provided you on another thread...???

Good.

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1. “People in the military have bad experience with military healthcare.”

Please see the account of Larry Pilkinton, posted above.

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2. “You had a six year enlistment and you only serve three years?”

2.5 “You were released from active duty for a physical disability in 1970?”

Yes...well, 2 years, 10 months, and 29 days to be precise.

I was discharged because I got SICK....not because I did anything “wrong”...!!!

I didn’t find out that I had in FACT been discharged for “physical disabilities” until 2002....32 years AFTER my honorable.

The REASON I didn’t know that is because until Senator Burns stepped in, I couldn’t GET my “complete” Service Personnel and Service Medical Records....and, they’re STILL spotty at best. NO ONE has any entries from the corpsmen on the ship who administered injections and “boosters” on sugar cubes...so, NONE of us know what we were innoculated with....even the officer who was the first SHAD officer on the Granville S. Hall, who came to our reunion in Seattle looking for HELP from the frikkin’ enlisted men he helped endganger....

Now, THAT is poetic justice, my friend.

As for the nature of my discharge, I was treated somewhat similar to Larry Pilkinton, but I do not see those details being necessary to reveal here and now.

Let’s just say I was INCARCERATED in Bremerton Naval Hospital for three weeks...a period of time which does NOT show up on my personnel records....and then unceremoniously discharged and handed my honorable by the Chief Medical Officer of the base.

...no explanation.

I didn’t argue.

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3. Did you get 100% disabiltity pension from the government since 1970?”

NO.

I submitted my FIRST VA disability claim in 1971...which was “approved” at a 30% rating after spending 8 1/2 MONTHS straight in the Denver VA Hospital being told, “There’s nothing wrong with you...the program never happened...and, if you don’t SHUT UP, you’re facing federal prison time” etc.

So, after a couple of years, it was approved but then reduced to 0% Service Connected because I would NOT subject myself to further incarceration.

I kept my mouth shut for the following three DECADES....

Then I reheated my ‘71 claim in 2002 after the lid of secrecy had been slowly pried off in 1999-2000.

That led to several denials and then a hearing with the Veterans Board of Appeals in July, 2005....which was adjudicated in ever so swift a manner in January, 2006.

I am now 100% Service Connected Disabled for PTSD....NONE of the 28 physical items listed on my claim were addressed. I suppose you would call the current status a cease fire.

I did NOT get a nickel for the intervening 35 years except for a pittance back in ‘73-74. I’m surprised they didn’t ask for it BACK...!!!

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4. “Many people experience terrible things. Sometimes you have to draw the line and start living.”

I’ll be sure to pass that on to my Infant Daughter who died in 1980 of SEVERE birth defects related to my SHAD exposures. It will no doubt be a great relief. She only lived for six days of hell on earth until I had to withdraw the life support system as she had NOT volunteered for the Navy OR Project SHAD.

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5. “Sometimes you need to talk to someone who is professional.”

I’ll share that with the Clinical Psychologist I see every other week due to the PTSD.

I sure wish you’d have told me that back in the ‘70s so that I could have avoided the DECADES of nightmares and sleepless nights.

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I was awarded disability payments by the Social Security in 2004. THAT was for a rare heart condition known as IHSS or H0CM...”cardio myopathy”....no one seems to be able to tell me WHY I have it....or the bone spurs....or the fibromyalgia...etc. etc.

I exhibit ALL the classic set of symptons of long term medical effects for low exposure to Sarin Gas.

Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

I had FIVE heart operations between May, 2002 and July, 2005.

Another coincidence.

I am now living on borrowed time with a defibrillator/pacemaker in my chest and 8 or so medications daily.

Imagine that.


63 posted on 06/24/2007 12:29:22 PM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Go right ahead.


64 posted on 06/24/2007 12:30:37 PM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: HAL9000

My, I thought Chemical Ali had already dangled.


65 posted on 06/24/2007 12:38:17 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: HAL9000

Is it done yet?


66 posted on 06/24/2007 12:44:56 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: HAL9000

Saddam Hussein's cousin Ali Hasan Al-Majid known as ' Chemical Ali' stands in court as he listens to his verdict being pronounced by Chief Judge Mohammed Oraibi Al-Khalifa, unseen, during the verdict trial session in Baghdad, Iraq, Sunday, June 24, 2007. Ali Hasan Al-Majid knowni was sentenced to death along with two other former regime officials by hanging for their roles in the use of chemical weapons in an offensive said to have killed some 180,000 people during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war. (AP Photo/Joseph Eid/pool)


67 posted on 06/24/2007 12:48:28 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: Jabba the Nutt
I think your on to something.

Republican party faithful and moderate Americans just want a candidate to show up with cajoles.

68 posted on 06/24/2007 12:53:38 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN or THOMPSON 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: JB in Whitefish; Admin Moderator
Don't hijack.

If you want to post information about another topic, start your own thread.

69 posted on 06/24/2007 1:03:59 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: SIDENET

I’m STILL waiting for the “go ahead” from the sacred “old timers” as to precisely WHERE on this site one would find the “appropriate” forum for the TRUTH.....heaven forbid I should cause anyone with delicate feelings to work up the nerve to SILENCE me....

[outside the VA & DOD, that is]

I mean, if a real genuine dyed in the brain matter FREEPER says I’m bound for the firing squad, then so BE it.

I just thought folks around here would like to contrast their total APATHY regarding the Project 112/SHAD Veterans with their feigned ire over Halabja, 1988.

Seems perfectly acceptable to ME.

After all, who HERE can lay claim to having lifted a pinky or twisted an eyebrow over these matters since the year 2000...??? Since it was never, evidently, posted by one of the really cool insiders I guess all those brave men should just go screw themselves....???

OH, I get it now. It’s not “funny” enough.

Well, I tried....no, really.


70 posted on 06/24/2007 1:19:25 PM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: JB in Whitefish

Go away. You are ruining the hanging party.


71 posted on 06/24/2007 1:36:09 PM PDT by John123 (Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
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To: JB in Whitefish
Again go away. In fact, as far as from me as possible.

Have you considered relocating to Siberia?

72 posted on 06/24/2007 1:41:06 PM PDT by John123 (Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
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To: ErnBatavia

Nooooooooo... not Helen

ErnBatavia, have you no mercy. After all, Chem Ali only killed 180,000 Kurds.


73 posted on 06/24/2007 6:52:33 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: HAL9000
BUH-bye

(singing) "If I'd'a known you were leaving I'd'a baked a cake, baked a cake ..."

74 posted on 06/24/2007 7:48:00 PM PDT by DancesWithCats
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To: JB in Whitefish

Why don’t you just start your own thread on this forum?


75 posted on 06/24/2007 11:12:36 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom ("nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.")
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To: ErnBatavia

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! MY EYES!!! MY EYES!!!!! Thank you I am blind now do to that image. Please use barf alerts on images like that.


76 posted on 06/25/2007 9:08:51 AM PDT by CMS (When injustice becomes law rebellion becomes duty ||||Liberals: hard on fetuses soft on terrorists)
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To: SolidWood

No they wont do it more professionally. They would do it the right way. Get a small rope. Untie his feet, then slowly pull him off the ground (maybe just far enough so he can scrape the tips of his toes). This way, it should take about 15-25 minutes. Nothing quick and painless.


77 posted on 06/25/2007 9:44:26 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: HAL9000
"The shame of it! Hanging more innocent men!"


78 posted on 06/25/2007 4:13:24 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: HAL9000

79 posted on 06/26/2007 5:22:45 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (In everyday life there is more than meets the eye to reach the depths of truth we must DRAGTHEWATERS)
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To: HAL9000

Thank you so much for posting this. I never heard a word about it.


80 posted on 06/27/2007 9:40:23 AM PDT by Pirate21 (The liberal media are as sheep clearing the path along which they will be led to the slaughter.)
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