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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 24 June 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 24 June 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 06/24/2007 5:14:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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Gag. GatewayPundit. Too nasty to cite the article. At the top now, you may have to scroll later today

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/


41 posted on 06/24/2007 6:18:21 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: anita
###### UNREPORTED Poll-Result about MSM -> Just 23% have confidence in TV News & 22% have confidence in newspapers. That is, 78% of people DON'T believe the Media. Quite an accomplishment (!).

Well... at least the have a slightly higher approval ratings then Congress *L*

42 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:01 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Alas Babylon!; eeevil conservative; Phsstpok; rodguy911
More info on Iraq. This guy is reliable. Him and Yon are the two Ernie Pyles of this war.

One week of Operation Phantom Thunder - an update

An update on the Battle of Iraq

Operation Phantom Thunder, the corps coordinated operation across three theaters in the Baghdad Belts, has completed it seventh day. Lieutenant General Raymond Odierno, the ground forces commander, briefed on the operation. To date, Coalition and Iraqi forces have killed 159 al Qaeda and insurgents, wounded 41, and detained 721 suspects. Coalition and Iraqi forces found and destroyed 304 roadside bombs, seven car bombs and 128 weapons caches.

Operation Arrowhead Ripper, the campaign in the Diyala theater, remains the hottest of the three. So far the bulk of the fighting is occurring in Baqubah, the provincial capital. “At least 55 al-Qaida operatives have been killed, 23 have been detained, 16 weapons caches have been discovered, 28 improvised explosive devices have been destroyed and 12 booby-trapped structures have been destroyed,” since the start of Arrowhead Ripper, Multinational Forces Iraq reported. Coalition and Iraqi forces also found an al Qaeda “torture chamber.” Upwards of 1,000 al Qaeda fighters are thought to be holed up in the western half of the city.

Al Qaeda prepared for the assault on Baqubah. “Days before the offensive, unmanned U.S. drones recorded video of insurgents digging trenches with back-hoes,” the Associated Press reported. “About 30 improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, were planted on Route Coyote, the U.S. code name for a main Baqubah thoroughfare.” About fifteen percent of the western portion of the city is said to have been cleared, and the operation could take up to 60 days.

US forces in Baghdad and the Belts. MNF-I map, click to view.

Lieutenant General Raymond Odierno, the ground forces commander, visited the city and stated most of al Qaeda’s senior leadership has fled, while lower level leaders are believed to be trapped. “We believe 80 percent of the upper level [al-Qaida] leaders fled, but we’ll find them.” said U.S. Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the ground forces commander. “Eighty percent of the lower level leaders are still here.”

In Khalis, north of Baqubah, U.S. forces killed 17 al Qaeda as they attempted to enter the city. Attack helicopters were called in to destroy the terrorists’ vehicles on the outskirts of the city.

As operations in Diyala province are ongoing, Rear Admiral Mark Fox, a spokesman for Multinational Forces Iraq, stated Iraqi and Coalition forces are laying a trap for al Qaeda who flee the hot zones in the belts. “If you’ve got [the regions] properly cordoned then they’re going to flee into somebody’s arms. It’s a trap,” he stated. As we’ve noted since the beginning of the operation, Iraqi and U.S. forces have been placed in blocking positions along the rivers and key choke points.

US forces in Baghdad and the Belts. MNF-I map, click to view.

With Anbar Province no longer a safe haven, an increase of pressure in Baghdad and the hot operations in the belts, and the Shia south hostile, al Qaeda is left with Ninewa, Kirkuk, and Salahadin as fall back positions. Iraqi and U.S. Forces have prepared for this option. Some of the best Iraqi Army units are stationed in the northwest. These are seasoned units that have recently returned from supporting the Baghdad Security Operation.

U.S and Iraqi forces have stepped up operations in the northwestern region. Four al Qaeda and insurgents were detained in a series of operations in Ninewa, while another 18 were captured during raids in northern Baghdad and southern Salahadin provinces.

Al Qaeda responded with one of its patented suicide attacks near Kirkuk. Sixteen civilians were killed and 76 wounded after a suicide bomber “struck a compound housing the municipal headquarters and local town council in Sulaiman Bek. The blast also reduced nearby houses to rubble ... At least 10 city council members, including the mayor and the police chief, were among the wounded.”

To the south, U.S. forces continue to press forward in the Arab Jabaur and Mahmudiyah regions. The operations consist of a series of raids, patrols and clearing operations. Reporting from Operation Commando Eagle in the Mahmudiyah has been sparse, however the activity in Arab Jabour has been robust. “In the first week of the southern offensive, known as Marne Torch [in the Arab Jabour Region], five suspected insurgents have been killed and more than 60 others detained,” Joshua Paltrow reported. The U.S. is also working to cut off the enemy’s avenue of escape to trap them in the kill box. “Attack aircraft have dropped thunderous explosives on roads to cut off escape routes.”

Also, Multinational Forces Division South Central has now merged into Multinational Division Central, which is conducting operations in the southern Baghdad Belts. The Poles, Romanians and El Salvadorians operating in Wasit province, which borders Iran, will fall under MND-C. Also, a brigade of about 3,000 Georgian troops will soon be arriving to assist in interdicting the flow of Iranian weapons. Muqtada al Sadr’s Mahdi Army will also likely be a target of operations.

The U.S. military commanders continue to state the operations will be ongoing over the course of the entire summer. The escape of Al Qaeda leaders and operatives from Baqubah and the southern belts will no doubt be touted as a failure in the plan, but this view demonstrates a lack of understanding of the fundamentals of warfare and the purpose of the operation.

First, no cordon is perfect, and the enemy has the ability to read the signs and act accordingly. It has been clear for months Baqubah would become a target of Coalition forces, and al Qaeda has its own sophisticated intelligence network that no doubt detected Coalition and Iraqi movements.

Second, the purpose of the Baghdad Security Plan and Operation Phantom Thunder is to deny Baghdad and the Belts to al Qaeda, and the kill as many operatives and leaders as possible in the process. When al Qaeda attempts to regroup, it will be in the hinterlands, and in some cases, in regions less hospitable to its actions.

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By Bill Roggio on June 22, 2007 9:38 PM

43 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:16 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: kabar

It must NOT pass.


44 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:19 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: kabar
Yup. Fighting a media war is something very hard to do when your opponents are such convincing liars, partisans and tale-spinners.

Perhaps we need to cultivate candidates who are good at this. Reagan was great, but (IMHO) the press was less rabid then, too.

45 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:22 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: TomGuy

Wallace: Bloomberg candidacy indicates that the public is fed up with both parties.

$$$$$$

Mr Wallace: Get a clue. The Bloomberg candidacy indicates that a billionaire controfreak wants to play in the White House after he leaves Gracie Mansion.
Jeeeesh! It has nothing to do with the “public”.


46 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:27 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: saveliberty
Does that mean that I shouldn’t spray the house to get rid of wood boring insects?

You need to be compassionate to them. They deserve to eat too...look at how hard working they are. Maybe we can tax them.

47 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:30 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah
Now Difi says that Cheney not giving Congress documents is the height of arrogance and she is just amazed
48 posted on 06/24/2007 6:20:43 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The press hasn’t changed. Remember Iran-Contra?


49 posted on 06/24/2007 6:21:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS

Lott’s solution to the Cheney problem: “Let the Courts decide.”


50 posted on 06/24/2007 6:21:58 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bahbah

LOL

Too late.


51 posted on 06/24/2007 6:22:48 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: Mo1

Re Cheney: Another MSM manufactured issue by the MSM. It is not a coincidence that the WP and NYT ran this story today. Sounds like coordination. And dutifully, the Sunday talk shows pick up this issue as gospel.


52 posted on 06/24/2007 6:23:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Mo1
Cheney not giving Congress documents is the height of arrogance and she is just amazed

DiFi doling out huge dollars in government contracts to her husband's company seems a tad more arrogant to me.

53 posted on 06/24/2007 6:23:58 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: MNJohnnie
Brilliant post John, and thanks for bringing this one up.
Last night I did a little surfing and came up with similar stuff all over the web and was hoping we did not get bogged down into the hopeless if not hapless immigration debate now going on for an entire week yet again.

There are a number of rat traps set by the msm/dnc/traitors and we are knocking off every one of them thanks to brilliant leadership of the war from Petreaus on down.
Here’s one I particularly liked as it hits the msm right where they need to be slammed in the facts and figures area.
It’s from the “Fourth Rail” and you will find it here:

http://billroggio.com

Roggio is brilliant and is mentioned all over the web. “Operation Phantom Thunder”(a resulting part of the surge)in its first week,this info from a briefing by Lt. Gen. Odierno to date:
Killed 159 al Qaeda fighters and or other insurgents(terrorists in my book)wounded 41,detained 721 suspects(that’s a lot of detainees—marvelous job there that will undoubtedly go unreported)destroyed 304 roadside bombs,7 car bombs and destroyed 128 weapons caches. This is the largest operation in Iraq since 2003 and from the looks of msm reporting it will be up to us to get the good word out.

Also here is a Yahoo story about how we are now using former enemy Sunni to our advantage even though some of the higher ups including Maliki are not real hot about it. We are doing the right thing. It’s here:

http://news.yahoo.com/

scroll down to world AP news(yeah I know)
“US makes improbable Sunni ally in Iraq” it’s a key story about Sunni youth in the group 1920’s that are helping US soldiers with vital intel.

Here’s another one I just had to slide in from the “Flopping Aces” site that gives more insight into just who our troops really are.(one more time)
Its the story of an Afghan woman who is 8 months pregnant and is shot in the belly by locals.
The only one who can save her are U.S. troops—it’s a must read.it’s here;

http://www.floppingaces.net/

http://www.floppingaces.net/ On the same site don’t forget to check out Cameron Diaz’s trip to Peru(Miss Duhhh/Huhhh) carries a bag that reminds the Peruvians about their tortuous commie days(she is so dumb)

And of course there is also another blockbuster about where the WMD’s went into Syria

Once again great post MNJ.

54 posted on 06/24/2007 6:24:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Bahbah

I wish Wallace would have raised that with Feinstein when she mentioned the new ethics legislation the Dem Congress is preparing. But that won’t happen. The fact that we have Lott and Feinstein as supposed opposites is part of the sham that there are major differences between the leadership of both parties.


55 posted on 06/24/2007 6:26:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: anita

McCuddy gone? About time!


56 posted on 06/24/2007 6:26:49 AM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: kabar
Re Cheney: Another MSM manufactured issue by the MSM. It is not a coincidence that the WP and NYT ran this story today. Sounds like coordination. And dutifully, the Sunday talk shows pick up this issue as gospel.

Considering how Reid mentioned it on the Senate Floor right away the morning the WP article came out .. I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that this was coordinated

57 posted on 06/24/2007 6:26:58 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: MNJohnnie
you will find it here:

http://www.floppingaces.net sorry about that third link that did not work it's above.

58 posted on 06/24/2007 6:28:32 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Mo1

Big article in today’s WP about Cheney and his powers. C-SPAN’s Washington Journal this morning made it the first topic of open phones for an hour.


59 posted on 06/24/2007 6:28:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Bahbah; Laverne; PerConPat; Alas Babylon!; rodguy911
Awards for Sunday 17th June 2007 presented by Bahbah - thanks to her great work and congratulations to the winners


60 posted on 06/24/2007 6:29:29 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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