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A new pronoun? What's a hu to do? Gender-neutral terms spur bruising debate
St. Paul Pioneer Press | 06/23/2007 | WILLIAM WEIR

Posted on 06/24/2007 2:29:33 PM PDT by rhema

For at least 150 years, people have been trying to solve the pronoun dilemma.

That would be the dilemma that causes odd word formations out of fairness to both genders: "he or she," "him or her," or "s/he." Some avoid the gender question altogether by speaking in the plural, as in "If anyone asks, tell them what they need to know."

Some people have taken the more extreme approach of devising entirely new pronouns that specify no gender. "Ne," "hizer," "thon," "shem" and "herm" are just a few that came along and faded quickly. They're known as gender-neutral, or epicene, pronouns.

The latest such pronoun comes from DeAnn DeLuna, who teaches literature at Johns Hopkins University. Her creation, "hu," would replace he, she, him, her and his. Because it's just one word, unlike an entire set of pronouns, DeLuna says it's easier to use than other gender-neutral pronouns. And the word (pronounced "huh"), trips off the tongue easily.

Gender and pronouns have vexed language watchers for some time. At one point, the English language had no clear female pronoun, so it was a monumental shift when "she" emerged in the 12th century. In 2000, the American Dialect Society chose "she" as its Word of the Millennium.

The matter doesn't prey too heavily on most people's minds, but the debate hasn't gone away.

The most common solution, using "they" or "them," irks grammarians when the subject is singular. "One" is another pronoun substitute, and one that falls short. "When one opens one's book, one will read from it." That's kind of awkward. Beyond grammatical and aesthetic concerns are the sociopolitical. Folks in the transgender community have long charged that "he" or "she" forces them into categories they don't necessarily identify with.

DeLuna says "hu" has been well-received within the transgender community. And she has given her creation a jump-start of sorts: She recently edited a book of essays about the historian J.G.A. Pocock and insisted that the book's writers use the pronoun. "I had to be very tactful," she said, but added that all the contributors went along with it.

It's an uphill battle, DeLuna knows, but she holds out hopes that "hu" will enter everyday speech.

Good luck with that, says Dennis Baron, author of "Grammar and Gender."

"It's hard to say 'I got a great idea' and get other people to say 'let's do it,' " he said. "There's the 'you're not the boss of me' response. People want to be correct, but they don't want to be corrected."

Baron says more than 100 different alternative pronouns have been suggested since the mid-19th century. Some are combinations of male and female pronouns, like "heesh." Others borrow from other languages, such as "ta" from the Mandarin. None has taken hold.

"Of all the words in language, pronoun systems tend to be more conservative," said Baron, who teaches at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. Change moves at a glacial pace, he says.

But progress has been made, DeLuna says. Until the 1960s, few people thought twice about using "he" as an all-inclusive pronoun. But to modern ears, using "he" across the board sounds more jarring than "they."

Gender-neutral pronouns have found limited success in academia. Among Connecticut Wesleyan students, for instance, the preferred alternative pronouns are "ze," "zim" and their possessive, "hir." But even within the progressive environs of that university, some professors have reservations about words that haven't made their way into most dictionaries.

Matthew Sharpe, who teaches English at Wesleyan, says he's politically sympathetic to the cause of gender-neutral pronouns. "Aesthetically, though, they rankle," he said in an e-mail. "But so does 'their,' which more and more people seem to use as the possessive form of the general pronoun. I don't think we've found a good solution to the problem yet."

DeLuna has learned people take their pronouns seriously. Even her friends have told her "hu" is a little too radical. That's fine with her - debate is good.

"I'm interested in people having fun with language," she said. "The idea is just to communicate."


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KEYWORDS: academia; grammar; hu; language; liberals
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To: rhema

“If anyone asks, tell them what they need to know.”

What is wrong with, “If anyone asks, answer the question?”


21 posted on 06/24/2007 3:00:37 PM PDT by GOPologist (By the time you decide to look for greener pastures, you're too old to climb the fence.)
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To: rhema
This is what happens when people reject G-d's laws. They start out claiming to be libertarian anarchists who are against G-d because He has "too many rules," but in the end it always turns out that they don't think He has enough rules.

For every sexual sin the atheists/liberals want to decriminalize, there is something they want to outlaw in the name of "reason" and "justice."

22 posted on 06/24/2007 3:00:50 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Mah tovu 'ohaleykha, Ya`aqov, mishkenoteykha, Yisra'el!")
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To: Remole
But in Hebrew, “hu” is “he” and “he” is “she” and, oh fuggetaboutit.

Our imperious language masters would probably dictate that Hebrew change its pronouns.

23 posted on 06/24/2007 3:00:57 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: clintonh8r
“He” as representative of both genders has been perfectly acceptable for a long time. I see no reason to change.

In every place except leftist academia and publishing circles, unfortunately.

24 posted on 06/24/2007 3:02:36 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

“..some Palasaides Princesses ..”

As the proud mom of a true Jersey Girl, I gotta say, Palisades Princesses is pretty good!


25 posted on 06/24/2007 3:02:56 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: rhema

Most people are still unclear about the rules for it’s and its, many on this forum sad to say.

As for the he/she connundrum -—lots of ways to avoid that problem.


26 posted on 06/24/2007 3:04:53 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: rhema

“DeLuna says “hu” has been well-received within the transgender community”

And when everyone knows this it should put an end to this nonsense. For most purposes language is better the more precise it is. This person wants sacrifice precision on the altar of political correctness. If you want change, don’t worry. Pretty soon we’ll be using El, La, and Usted.


27 posted on 06/24/2007 3:05:46 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: rhema; P-Marlowe; xzins
I once worked for a legislative reform commission. When we were presenting our proposals, I used the term "he" to refer to an indefinite person. The Chairwoman of the Legislature jumped down my throat for using that "sexist language."

I really wanted to say, "Ma'am, I'm sorry the English language offends you, but I see no reason to change a thousand years of the King's English to placate your sensibilities." Because we were trying to sell our proposal, I instead said "I'm sorry. I'll be more clear. 'He or she'."

Man, that gagged me.

28 posted on 06/24/2007 3:06:20 PM PDT by jude24
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To: rhema

Apparently these jerks never took Latin, French, or German classes either.


29 posted on 06/24/2007 3:07:16 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: rhema
Maybe hu will set the captives free.

You mean like how Ebonics set blacks free and Spanglish set Hispanics free?

30 posted on 06/24/2007 3:07:54 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * wahoo wa! ... U.Va. Engineering '09)
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To: rhema

The English language already has a gender-neutral single object and subject pronoun (it) and a corresponding possessive pronoun (its). We typically use this pronoun for persons who disclaim identity with male and female genders, but declare theirs as “other/please specify.” We also use “it” to refer to nonliving things, entities without gender, asexually reproducing organisms, hermaphrodites, and animals of unknown or irrelevant gender.


31 posted on 06/24/2007 3:08:51 PM PDT by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: rhema
But to modern ears, using "he" across the board sounds more jarring than "they."

BS. Only to a certain kind of hyper-sensitive modern ears.

I've seen a lot of textbooks that use "she" instead. I fail to see how that's an improvement.

32 posted on 06/24/2007 3:09:11 PM PDT by irv
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To: rhema

Sounds like something from Dr. Seuss.


33 posted on 06/24/2007 3:09:47 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
For every sexual sin the atheists/liberals want to decriminalize, there is something they want to outlaw in the name of "reason" and "justice."

And, when they're imposing rules on our language, they do so [quoting Jennings' column cited earlier] "Using superficial determinants, they rule with a judgmentalism they condemn and a demanding conformity defiant of their individualism dogma. They live by facile rules that too easily dismiss anything or anyone who provokes thought. Ironic that the age of diversity should produce monolithic literature."

34 posted on 06/24/2007 3:11:18 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Czar; Borax Queen; CottonBall; janetgreen
Her creation, "hu," would replace he, she, him, her and his.....DeLuna says "hu" has been well-received within the transgender community.

Speaking of ridiculous....ping.

35 posted on 06/24/2007 3:11:42 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: rhema

He is hu, she is hu, even an it is a hu?

What will all the hu’s down in hu-ville do?


36 posted on 06/24/2007 3:12:08 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: hsalaw
That's right. The "humankind" expression is reely two stoopid to.

Where does "man" in "humankind" fit in?

Shouldn't it be "hu-person-kind"? Then you have "son" in "per-son." Where do the daughters fit in?

Maybe we should all communicate using stick figures. And change the signs on restrooms. You know the stick figures that connote a female with the shape of a dress instead of a man wearing pants.

Hell, all men should wear drsses and pants. Oh wait, the Scots do that.

Nevermind.

37 posted on 06/24/2007 3:12:50 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: jocon307
The Romance languages have gender neutral pronouns, ...

They do?? OK, mia hermano, whatever you say.

;^)

38 posted on 06/24/2007 3:15:27 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Let's Roll
Sounds like something from Dr. Seuss.

Right: Horton hears a Hu

39 posted on 06/24/2007 3:16:14 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
DeLuna says "hu" has been well-received within the transgender community.

That community is most notable for the innovative use of things other than pronouns. In any case human beings do not have "genders." Words have genders. Human beings have sexes. Vive la Différence.

Such acrobatic stupidity (one is reminded of a diver doing a one and a half gainer into a dry pool) as DeLuna's neologism will not "catch on" unless it is mandated, and the real language Nazis know that perfectly well. It will be coming soon to academia, bet on it. There tortured syntax is perfectly justified as long as it is the interest of (shudder) "gender and social justice."

But the control of language is not the control of thought despite some decades of earnest academic asseveration to the contrary. It isn't even really the control of language. That has, to my knowledge, happened only in one extraordinary case, and Latin has been dead for a very long time now.

40 posted on 06/24/2007 3:16:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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