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And as far as this overprivileged self-righteous snot-nosed punk Obama is concerned, he would do well to remember that what Jesus actually said was "Give to God what is God's and Caesar what is Caesar's" not "Give to Caesar what is God's and Caesar's" and certainly not what these lefty religious "leaders" are saying, "Caesar, take what is God's from all and then dole it out as we see fit."
Another leftist lie. It's adult stem cell research that shows some promise.
They will say or do anything to lessen the value of the unborn, furthering their murderous agenda.
Pat Robertson and the late Jerry Falwell were not running for POTUS, Obama is.
Strict only in the most "I can do whatever I feel like but will use my religion as a prop" sense of the word.
email tonight.
If abortion and gay marriage are so damned unimportant, then the left should quit PUSHING them on us. They are the ones obsessed with these "petty" issues.
Point One; embryonic stem cell research (where the fetus is destroyed) has decades of work before it can be considered useful. However, cord blood pluripotential stem cells and adult stem cells have FDA approval for use with human subjects for a variety of diseases, while embryonic stem cells, have yet to make it out of the first stage of research.
Point two;The very fact that we are the most religous of the Western democracies has everything to do with the fact that we are the sole remaining superpower in the world.
And Obama was the honored guest of “the Rick Warren” at Saddleback Church. Good pick, Rick.
Where have you been? Griswold's retired, replaced by the even more liberal and ecumenical Katherine Jefferts-Schori.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Do these libs ever look at what's in our founding documents? Or what the men who wrote them said?
"We have no government armed in power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."
—John Adams"It is impossible for the man of pious reflection not to perceive in it [the Constitution] a finger of that Almighty hand which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief in the critical stages of the revolution."
—James Madison
Quite the rare period of secularism they had there, eh Ms. Hunter?
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Does he mean there aren’t any left-wing churches that don’t even believe in God and dismiss the 10 Commandments as old-fashioned?
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Religion is only “messy” for liberals who worship at the Church of Secularism, like Jennifer.
“The incremental erosion of abortion rights and the specter of Roe vs. Wade being overturned haunts those who uphold the notion of a woman’s right to choose.”
Personal rights end when they impose restrictions on another’s personal rights.
Abortion is a selfish act by a MOTHER against her own child.
That child has a right to live and despite the works of the March of Dimes to snuff out birth defects through abortion, that child has a RIGHT to live despite any genetic “weaknesses”.
I'm looking in my Bible for the part that says God thinks it's OK to dice and slice little babies, right up to the moment of birth.
“Church of Liberalism” according to Ann Coulter:
Saints (JFK).
Holy documents (Roe v. Wade).
Martyrs (Soviet spy Alger Hiss and Mumia Abu Jamal).
Churches (public schools, where prayer is banned).
Clergy (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free).
Sacraments (abortion).
Doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the “absolute moral authority”
of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland)
Cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).
Religious left developing new ‘spiritual covenant’ [another try at a political coalition]
Religion News Service ^ | June 22, 2006 | Daniel Burke
Posted on 06/24/2006 11:01:23 AM EDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1654891/posts
WASHINGTON — After wandering the political desert for nearly 40 years, organizers of a Spiritual Activism conference here said that the religious left is taking tentative steps toward the Promised Land.
“We’re talking about first, baby steps here,” said Rabbi Michael Lerner, head of the Network of Spiritual Progressives and editor of the progressive Jewish magazine Tikkun.
For the first time since the Vietnam War, according to Lerner, the “spiritual” or “religious” left is building a viable political coalition. The goal is not to tip elections toward Democrats in 2006, or even 2008, but to develop a grass-roots network that all politicians must reckon with for years to come, Lerner said.
About 1,200 people from 39 states attended the gathering in May.
The sundry peaceniks, green thumbs, poverty busters and civil-rights activists were armed with a “spiritual covenant” and talking points with which to engage elected representatives.
They heard speeches by liberal evangelicals like Tony Campolo and Jim Wallis, founder of the Sojourners social justice movement. And they met in small workshops to talk about topics such as global warming, “moving the movable middle” and “using feminine principles to change the world.”
Lerner, author of the new book “The Left Hand of God,” said he learned from experience that “it doesn’t matter to whisper in the ears of the powerful.”
During the 1990s, the rabbi said, both Bill and Hillary Clinton regularly employed his rhetoric in political speeches. But without an army of activists to lobby lawmakers, words seldom translated into deeds, according to the rabbi. “It was meaningless,” he said.
Now Lerner puts his faith in men like Dart Westphal, 52, the president of a non-profit housing corporation in the Bronx. On Wednesday morning, Westphal sat in the office of his congressman, Rep. Eliot Engel, with the spiritual covenant in hand.
In a brief meeting with Engel’s legislative aide, Westphal said Engel must “let justice roll down,” and pick one of the items in the covenant — he didn’t care which one — and act on it.
Lerner wrote the covenant and has said it is partly inspired by Republicans’ 1994 “Contract With America.” But instead of the GOP’s conservative platform, Lerner’s covenant includes liberal measures, such as adding a “social responsibility” clause to government contracts.
To Westphal, a practicing Lutheran, the specifics of the spiritual covenant did not matter as much as the liberal ideals that inspired it.
He did have a bone to pick with the Spiritual Activism conference itself, though: It was not religious enough, he said. “The problem is that it’s interfaith. It’s hard to sing hymns without offending people from other faiths,” he said.
That may signal an obstacle to building a cohesive religious left, said Mark J. Rozell, professor of public policy at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va.
Where surveys show religious conservatives are willing to argue there is one correct view on policy issues, religious liberals often view policy from a variety of perspectives, Rozell said.
“The religious right is thus much more unified than its counterparts on the religious left,” Rozell said.
For example, while Lerner’s spiritual covenant might be a document the religious left can carry and coalesce around, Wallis’ Sojourners group is releasing its own separate “Covenant for America” at a conference in July.
According to Pat Casey, 60, who came to the conference from Madison, Wis., the religious left is united on one front: a desire to counter the political influence of the religious right.
Casey, who owns a small communications firm, said he is usually not the sort of person who would attend a rally in Washington. But the father of five said he was concerned that religious conservatives have “hijacked the Bible.”
This week he was happy to lend his voice to any protest song, whether it be “Give Peace a Chance” or “This Little Light of Mine.”
“Something’s happening here,” Casey said. “It’s something that people from all different traditions are saying, ‘Look, we’ve been quiet for too long and it’s time to speak out.’ “
With the Help of a Dozen, Democrats Learn to ‘Get Religion’ (Liberal Religiousity Alert)
Religion News Service ^ | 10/17/2006 | Daniel Burke, Kevin Eckstrom and Peter Sachs
Posted on 12/26/2006 1:22:32 PM EST by markomalley
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1758617/posts