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The first colture vote was all for show - It's how the process works - It was simply do allow the drama queens of the Senate to feel important for another few days...

This bill was never going to pass (as it was). It didn't have a shot in hell. The hyperventalating that went on after the first cloture vote by many within our base was foolishness and sad to witness.

I'm glad to see this bill die appropriately (as it was written).....but wish some within our base showed a little more stones, class and intellectual honesty while this last process played out.

Hell, we had some calling the WH evil for wanting a full up and down vote (yet, that is exactly what WE, the base were demanding when it came to Judges, Amb Bolton, etc, etc). Now, I was glad the cloture rule was used to defeat this bill.....But with that said, I did not think the WH was evil for suggesting it wanted a full up and down vote. Just like we weren't evil (or wrong) for wanting the same on Amb Bolton, Judges and other items.

But it is how the process works. Our founding fathers were smarter then a bunch of over hyperventalting, sky is falling cross hangers that we see so often today....

109 posted on 06/28/2007 9:07:35 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
This bill was never going to pass (as it was). It didn't have a shot in hell. The hyperventalating that went on after the first cloture vote by many within our base was foolishness and sad to witness.

I have two words for you: Bill Clinton.

178 posted on 06/28/2007 9:49:25 AM PDT by CT (http://www.imwithfred.com)
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To: DevSix

This bill lost inspite of Bush, who was allegedly calling GOP senators this very morning to pressure them to support Kennedy’s bill.

See you at the signing, eh? /sarc


183 posted on 06/28/2007 9:52:38 AM PDT by indcons (Please call and thank Sens. Sessions, DeMint, and Vitter. They deserve our praise and gratitude.)
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To: DevSix

lol....I’m so glad people like you are here to tell us all how stupid we are.


202 posted on 06/28/2007 10:09:22 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The danger - the Tempest - forever is o'er.)
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To: DevSix
I don't know that I agree with your characterization of the base in this instance, BUT

hyperventilating, sky is falling cross hangers

That is just plain LMAO funny. I don't care who you are. Always a pleasure to see such outstanding wordsmithing.
213 posted on 06/28/2007 10:25:29 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: DevSix
... Our founding fathers were smarter then a bunch of over hyperventilating, sky is falling cross hangers that we see so often today..."

Cross hangers? I'd like you to explain that one please. Also, your attempt to contrast our relative desire for up or down votes in the immigration and judge confirmation situations mixes apples and oranges. In the case of the immigration bill, it is perfectly reasonable to be in favor of voting against cloture (and thus, to continue a filibuster), as this is a normal part of the legislative process. On the other hand, the DemonicRats' use of the filibuster to prevent judicial appointees from ever seeing an up or down vote was a different and nearly unprecedented use of the filibuster, and thus we rightly complained about it.

As for "hyperventilating", I believe you greatly underestimate the danger the Country faces if the amnesty advocates ever succeed. The United States is what it is because of its founding principles, principles which are alien to most illegal Mexican and Central American invaders, and principles which people with so little education and regard for our laws and sovereignty would happily flush down the toilet in exchange for a few more handouts from the panderers in the White House and Congress. If we EVER legalize tens of millions of these people, giving them the right to vote, it is GAME OVER for the United States as we know it. The DemonicRats know this, which is why they are pushing so hard on it (the RINO's are doing it for other reasons). The Dem's are desperately trying to create a new impoverished majority which they can make dependant on their largesse. That's their stock-in-trade. If they are successful, they will be able to implement every insane policy you can possibly imagine. That is why we are so adamant about holding the line on this issue. I believe illegal immigration, followed closely by its enablers, diversity and multiculturalism, is the number one threat to our Nation, even greater than the threat posed by terrorism.

254 posted on 06/28/2007 12:06:47 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DevSix
cross hangers

What's a cross hanger?

258 posted on 06/28/2007 12:22:20 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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