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I understand what you are saying, and yes, I agree that some on our side can be as irrational as 99% of those on the left seem to be, but we are in very different times now than we were in 1986. The fact that the President of the United States and a very large percentage of the U.S. Congress have been trying to push this through in the face of 70-80% public opposition is stunning, and should give everyone great pause, regardless of the issue at hand. I am a dyed-in-the-wool Conservative, and have enthusiastically voted for President Bush each time. However, I don't think it is "hyperventilating" to point out that he has abandoned his conservative base on this issue, and that his actions constitute a DIRECT AND SERIOUS breach of his oath of office. As has been pointed out many times, if our elected officials, particularly the Executive Branch, in whom the power to defend the United States is vested, refuse to repel foreign invaders and to secure the Nation's borders, they have committed what arguably could be an impeachable offense.

However, I don't think it is "hyperventilating" to point out that he has abandoned his conservative base on this issue, and that his actions constitute a DIRECT AND SERIOUS breach of his oath of office. As has been pointed out many times, if our elected officials, particularly the Executive Branch, in whom the power to defend the United States is vested, refuse to repel foreign invaders and to secure the Nation's borders, they have committed what arguably could be an impeachable offense.

I can appreciate people being upset or let down on where GWB stands on this issue (in believing a comprehensive bill is the way to go, instead fixing things issue by issue ...that is related to the whole immigration / border security, visa problems.

With that being said, every POTUS since FDR (most certainly Nixon, JC, R. Reagan, Bush Sr) should have all been impeached....Taking your position above. Most certainly R. Reagan.

And that just doesn't pass the reality test. Hell, it could (likely should) be argued that R. Reagan should have demanded more back in 86 when it was a much more manageable problem (ditto that for Soc Security). Yet they were pushed down the road only to become what they are today.

Lets also be clear, immigration was not a huge issue in either 00 or 04. It simply was not.