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DEFEAT OF AMNESTY IS A TEMORARY REPREIVE, NOT A VICTORY
June 28, 2007 | me

Posted on 06/28/2007 3:28:39 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

The defeat of amnesty for illegal aliens is a good moment. Against widespread expectations, a 53 to 46 majority voted against it. The conservative grass roots did an outstanding job of framing the issue with honesty and well-informed candor. The American people saw it for what it was and wouldn't stand for it.

However, this isn't the end of it. In fact, the worst thing that could be done is for opponents to declare victory and lose focus. The key is to read between the lines.

The fact is, the majority of the U.S. Senate supports some form of amnesty for illegal aliens. We were fortunate that those people were unable to unite on how to give it to them, and how many minor concessions to grant to supporters of border security. There were, in fact, a few good things in the bill, even though the bill as a whole was against the national interest. It turns out that there are two widely different groups who support this- politically correct liberals and globalist, corporatist RINO's. Some of those RINO's have cast many conservative votes. But the two were unable form enough unity to put it over the top. Some who voted for the bill did so reluctantly, and would be willing to support another amnesty bill, provided it includes things they called for.

Even at that, this bill would have succeeded had not the American people, prompted by conservative activists, jammed the phone lines and e-mails with angry messages warning of opposition at the polls. But the people who want to grant amnesty to some 20 million illegals want it badly, for their own selfish purposes. So they may have set aside their plans for the time being, but they will be back. This isn't the last of it.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; deathofthegop; eternalvigilance; forthechildren; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; vampirebill
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1 posted on 06/28/2007 3:28:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: INDCON; EternalVigilance; fieldmarshaldj; calcowgirl; T.L.Sink; pissant; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

This is my personal editorial. Any ideas on to keep this monstrosity from rising from the grave are encouraged.


2 posted on 06/28/2007 3:30:11 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Push Enforcement at the State and Local level, dump the Federal Judges and get it done. Always assuming that the Feds are not going to do so!?


3 posted on 06/28/2007 3:36:08 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Clintonfatigued

My ideas are probably unprintable, as they center around how best to water the Tree of Liberty.


4 posted on 06/28/2007 3:37:30 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Anybody have a list of how each Senator and Representative voted?
5 posted on 06/28/2007 3:37:53 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Clintonfatigued
fire the lot of congress for wasting the people's time and money.

have the next bunch enforce the laws, or they will be thrown out also

6 posted on 06/28/2007 3:38:17 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Help out over here on this new ping list designed just for that purpose.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857756/posts


7 posted on 06/28/2007 3:38:39 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
In fact, the worst thing that could be done is for opponents to declare victory and lose focus.

I agree. The best thing to do is to declare victory and maintain focus on enforcing current laws and securing the border. I think we also need to get the pro-amnesty idiots out of key GOP positions (yes, Lott and Martinez, I'm referring to YOU).

8 posted on 06/28/2007 3:39:13 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I hope we never give up. We the people beat the President and Congress by letting Congress know our displeasure through emails and phone calls. The Reagan way of having the people go directly to their congressmen works. The fight isn't over and we need to keep the pressure on and see this thing through. What makes sense in priority order:

New Revised Immigration Bill:

1. Secure our borders with physical walls if need be and uphold/reiterate existing immigration laws (no need for new ones).

2. Immediately deport all illegal aliens in jail and in prison.

3. Give those that see the will of the American people, a chance to return south of the border (many will after seeing the first two items implemented).

4. Force a screening process for all illegals who remain in the US and put them through the same rigors as a legal immigrant including pledges of allegiance to the USA and to learning our language. Those who don't cooperate are deported.

5. As we secure our borders from illegal immigration, may we resolve to continue the fight to preserve our language, borders and culture.

Maybe an addendum that we don't forget to welcome legal immigrants with open arms remembering that throughout our history, they have often proved to be the most patriotic and hard working of all our citizens.

9 posted on 06/28/2007 3:42:31 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Clintonfatigued
Your right on this... all we did was to stop them from advancing there agenda...We now must put together and advance our own.. WE have to get this fixed....Build the fence, enforce the laws...
10 posted on 06/28/2007 3:42:46 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yes, I do have an idea. Some of the people who are really good at research, can trace back the connections and find out why some of these people were pushing so hard for this bill, even at the risk of their careers. If it can be discovered how they were going to personally gain, I think this could go a long way towards keeping the vampire in the coffin.


11 posted on 06/28/2007 3:42:56 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Clintonfatigued

Pelosi, Reid and President Bush are firm believers in the “resurrection of the dead” [bills, that is...]


12 posted on 06/28/2007 3:43:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Clintonfatigued

Enforcing the laws and the fence is next. But I fear it wont happen until an election.


13 posted on 06/28/2007 3:44:54 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: sageb1

Is there a way to ping me on major issues (like amnesty) & not everything going through?


14 posted on 06/28/2007 3:44:59 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Anima Mundi

Excellent idea.


15 posted on 06/28/2007 3:45:01 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

All I know is if you heard Specter after this went down, you know they have not given up and they will be back. It sounds like their plan will be to sneak bits and pieces into other Bills when we’re not watching them and perhaps when their fellow Senators who are against amnesty don’t notice it either. Watch for them to do some stuff by voice vote as they prepare to leave for some vacation. That’s how they usually pass the really unpopular UN garbage.


16 posted on 06/28/2007 3:45:03 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Learn to spell?


17 posted on 06/28/2007 3:45:27 PM PDT by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: Jim 0216

It’s not my list. You’d have to ask Politicalmom. Don’t forget she’s also maintaining a Fred pinglist. Don’t make it too tough on her. :)


18 posted on 06/28/2007 3:50:32 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Jim 0216

>> New Revised Immigration Bill:

We need enforcement and smart consumerism. Know where your money is going.


19 posted on 06/28/2007 3:51:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Saw a clip on Brit's show. Was Chertoff saying that DHS was now going to enforce "existing laws" and that it might be painful to watch tearing families apart yadda, yadda, yadda. And that the government had to win back the trust of the American People.

I'll believe it when I see it. And see it faithfully executed for a couple of years at least. Including the part about going after employers.

Then maybe we can talk about other things.

20 posted on 06/28/2007 3:52:44 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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