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Web groups claim victory in bill defeat (FR not mentioned)
Charlotte Observer ^ | 6/29/07 | AMY LORENTZEN

Posted on 06/29/2007 3:27:15 PM PDT by Libloather

Web groups claim victory in bill defeat
By AMY LORENTZEN
Associated Press Writer
Posted on Fri, Jun. 29, 2007

DES MOINES, Iowa --Online groups took credit Friday for leading the grass-roots opposition against an immigration reform bill, saying they persuaded Americans to flood Congress with hundreds of thousands of phone calls, faxes and e-mails.

"We think it was a rising tide of citizen response that forced the senators to stop and consider what the American people were saying, and what the American people were saying was they didn't like this bill," said Steve Elliott, president of Grassfire.org, headquartered in tiny Maxwell, Iowa.

The proposal, backed by President Bush, would have created a path to legal residency for illegal immigrants.

The conservative Grassfire group's Web site has more than a million contacts nationwide that led to more than 300,000 "citizen contacts" with senators offices over the past few days, Elliott said.

The contacts included phone calls, visits to lawmakers' offices and faxes marked with a giant letter "A" - which the group dubbed the "scarlet letter of amnesty." More than 725,000 people signed a Grassfire online petition, sent to President Bush and congressional members, against what they were calling the Bush-Kennedy Amnesty Bill, organizers said. Sen. Edward Kennedy, a Massachusetts Democrat, was his party's lead negotiator on the bill.

Another group, Eagle Forum, led a coalition of about a dozen groups including NumbersUSA, Let Freedom Ring and Concerned Women for America, said Jessica Echard, Eagle Forum's executive director. They combined Internet activism with bloggers and others in Washington who alerted group members if a lawmaker appeared to be wavering on his or her vote.

Echard, whose group dates to the early 1970s, said it was regular citizens, not lobbyists, who grabbed senators' attention.

"The fast-paced ability to generate calls; I think that was very key in this defeat," she said. "This was a new day with the average citizen."

Brian Darling, a congressional analyst for the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, credited groups for using the Internet to oppose the legislation.

Grassfire.org in particular "did an excellent job using new media outlets in getting the word out as to how terrible this Senate amnesty bill was," he said.

Elliott formed Grassfire.org in the late 1990s to address issues ranging from abortion and traditional marriage to tax reform and border security. He lives in Virginia, but a brother-in-law in central Iowa tipped him off to Web developers in Maxwell, population 793, and it became home to the movement.

The group targeted 17 senators of both parties, including Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. McConnell voted against the bill, and in a floor speech he noted that "thousands of smart, well-informed people called my offices to talk about this bill."

So many calls came into the office of Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin that the Democrat's phone system crashed. He also decided to oppose the measure, although a spokeswoman credited the actions of "ordinary Iowans," rather than campaigns by groups such as Grassfire.

Such vocal groups "always want to claim responsibility" when legislation goes their way, said David Redlawsk, a University of Iowa political science professor. But they probably did play a role because they drowned out other Americans who weren't speaking up, he said.

Redlawsk noted that 11 senators who are up for election in 2008 switched their votes on immigration reform. The issue unnverved many lawmakers because they couldn't clearly see where public opinion stood, he said.

"Politicians don't like uncertainty, and this particular issue is about as uncertain as they come right now," Redlawsk said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bill; defeat; fr; grassfire; internet; newmedia; numbersusa; web
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Those of you who pinged phone numbers and email addresses of the Senate perps - YOU DONE GOOD! Have a great weekend and enjoy a fine American holiday!


Lead RATS discover prayer soon after their crushing defeat.


FR always has Dingy Harry scratching something...

1 posted on 06/29/2007 3:27:18 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


2 posted on 06/29/2007 3:29:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Libloather

The two most important websites were NationalReview.com and MichelleMalkin.com because they provided INFORMATION on what was happening behind the scenes.

Good intelligence wins the battle.


3 posted on 06/29/2007 3:31:22 PM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: Libloather

This can’t be right, I heard that the CBS poll said that only 35% of Americans would were against the bill, with 50% “i dunno” because they didn’t have enough facts./s


4 posted on 06/29/2007 3:35:17 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: Libloather
Such vocal groups "always want to claim responsibility" when legislation goes their way, said David Redlawsk, a University of Iowa political science professor. But they probably did play a role because they drowned out other Americans who weren't speaking up, he said.

The silent majority? I suspect that the politicians decided that those not speaking up shared the opinion of those who were.

It is amazing what can be accomplished when you don't care who gets the credit.
5 posted on 06/29/2007 3:39:51 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Libloather

The point..is that WE worked together. We, the people.


6 posted on 06/29/2007 3:42:38 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: Libloather

Grassfire has been awesome, but so has FR!


7 posted on 06/29/2007 3:43:04 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Petronski

I’ve been real happy with NumbersUSA.


8 posted on 06/29/2007 3:47:33 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (In the Rise and Fall of United States I hope the Fall part is more than one chapter.)
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To: Libloather

Bump for later.


9 posted on 06/29/2007 3:56:03 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Libloather
FR not mentioned

"We're Cosa Nostra. We don't exist." -Sammy Gravano to John Gotti

10 posted on 06/29/2007 3:59:48 PM PDT by lowbridge (f You’re Gonna Burn Our Flag, Wrap Yourself in It First /No Oil for Pacifists)
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To: Libloather

This is only the beginning ... tt’s time for all conservatives to unite.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 4:01:39 PM PDT by SomeSay (I was misquoted!)
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To: Libloather
Remember Trent Lott's remark about Talk Radio; "that has to be dealt with"!

Here is a person that even more than that we now have to be dealing with, swift and effectively!! Link

By-by Mel!!!

12 posted on 06/29/2007 4:31:34 PM PDT by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: lowbridge; monkapotamus; All

OMG I didn’t know we are family connected ROFL


13 posted on 06/29/2007 6:16:28 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: danamco; Liz; Howlin
Here is a person...

My wrath was displayed, with a black Sharpie, on my annual RNC donation form (check excluded, mailed at their expense). They still aren't off my excrement list...

14 posted on 06/29/2007 6:21:09 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: SevenofNine
"OMG I didn’t know we are family connected ROFL"


15 posted on 06/29/2007 6:34:35 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: jwh_Denver

You might want to check out the background and links to NumbersUSA before you cut them a check...

Now that the bill has been defeated I highly recommend that all FReepers do a little digging and get to know some of these groups. Many will be unpleasantly surprised...


16 posted on 06/29/2007 6:42:37 PM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: Libloather
Here is what I got today, and my response:

Mike: You must kidding us as being real naïve. I would like to put my name on this e-card to wish the President “Happy Birthday”!

Using this opportunity as a fundraiser is extremely offensive to us.

After what the President and his spineless GOP Senators put us through this week, the amnesty bill, you are in for a huge surprise when you are going to tally the sum of money to the RNC.

As a participant in the bloggers-sphere on the internet, we are many who will withhold our donation to RINO’s whom you need to have a serious talk with if you ever want to regain our trust.

NO MORE MONEY TO RNC!

You Need to see this chilling video, so that you can understand where we comes from: Roy Beck's Link

Best regards,

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Dear P......, In a few short days, President Bush will celebrate his 61st Birthday. Don't miss out on this opportunity to wish the President a Happy Birthday by signing the RNC's eCard today.

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And if you can, I hope you will consider celebrating President Bush's birthday with a gift our entire Party can share. Your secure online donation of $61 (or whatever you can afford) will help keep the RNC's preparations for electing more Republicans in the 2007-2008 election cycle on track.

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17 posted on 06/29/2007 6:57:15 PM PDT by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: danamco
From: Robert M. (Mike) Duncan, RNC Chairman [mailto:ecampaign@gop.com] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:21 PM To:

Ewww. You must've given them an email address. I don't care who they are, they will NEVER get mine.

18 posted on 06/29/2007 7:11:31 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: monkapotamus

What hell I doing to poor Joe Pesci here ROFL


19 posted on 06/29/2007 7:50:52 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

I don’t know...ROFL!


20 posted on 06/29/2007 7:56:33 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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