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Who are the Senators that think 70% of you, don't know anything?
http://www.patrioticthunder.com ^ | 30 June 2007 | Rob

Posted on 06/30/2007 8:56:05 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder

Who are the Senators that think 70% of you, don't know anything

 

First off, CONGRATULATIONS, nothing, and we mean nothing has affected the Legislature branch of government than you did about immigration this past month.  You shut down the phone system for all of the capitol building on Thursday.  You emailed, faxed, wrote, and relentlessly phoned your Senators that this amnesty (immigration) plan was horrible.   In keeping with our great philosophy of providing you with the facts, consider this a reminder when you vote for these Senators at their next election.

Immigration Vote

Grouped by Home State (June 26th 2007)

If they voted YEA, they wanted to give amnesty to Illegal Aliens and really cared less about SECURING OUR BORDERS.

 Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Nay Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Nay Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Yea
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Nay Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Nay McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Nay Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Yea Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Lott (R-MS), Yea
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Yea McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Nay Tester (D-MT), Nay
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Yea Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Nay
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Yea
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Yea Dole (R-NC), Nay
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Nay Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Nay Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Yea Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Nay Graham (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Not Voting Thune (R-SD), Nay
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Nay Corker (R-TN), Nay
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Yea Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Yea Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Yea Webb (D-VA), Yea
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Nay Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Barrasso (R-WY), Nay Enzi (R-WY), Nay
 

If their name is in RED, some would say they're traitors to you and I.  However, the same vote came about on June 28, 2007.  With your onslaught of phone calls, look who changed their mind.  Makes you wonder if they really got it, or they got a little worried about their re-election status.

Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Nay
Arkansas: Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Iowa: Nay Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky: McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Nay
Minnesota: Coleman (R-MN), Nay
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Nay
Nebraska: Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Nay
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Nay
Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Nay Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Virginia: Warner (R-VA), Nay Webb (D-VA), Nay
 

Even though they finally got it right this time around, it's still real shady on their part not to vote against it in the first place.  Congrats to Alaska, Ohio, and Virginia you changed both of your Senators mind about the vote.  We only post this, because when it comes to election time, we don't want to forget, and if 80% of America can rally around an immigration plan, why can't we still SECURE OUR BORDERS SENATORS?

Source....http://www.patrioticthunder.com

 

 


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; congress; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; senators; vampirebill; vote
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1 posted on 06/30/2007 8:56:07 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: Patriotic Thunder

My bookmarks are overflowing.


2 posted on 06/30/2007 8:58:38 AM PDT by BigFinn (It doesn't take a 5th grader to build the Fence.)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

Both of my Senators, Nelson and Martinez, have shown they don’t listen to their constituents ... they need the boot!


3 posted on 06/30/2007 9:00:52 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Patriotic Thunder
We need to replace most of them, all the RINO's for sure.

Jeff Sessions for president.

4 posted on 06/30/2007 9:00:57 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Patriotic Thunder
Now is not the time to let up. We need to pressure our politicians to enforce the existing immigration laws including deporting illegal aliens, building the fence and prosecuting businesses who do business with illegal aliens. The link below is a ping list to pay attention for other questionable legislation being considered in Congress.

Keeping Track Of The Congress Critters
5 posted on 06/30/2007 9:02:17 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

FYI! Ensign (R-NV) heads the NRSC. Glad to see he changed his vote.


6 posted on 06/30/2007 9:02:22 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

All the calls made the difference.


7 posted on 06/30/2007 9:04:35 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: apocalypto

Yep, but like we said on our website, Talk Radio was on point leading the charge before this bill was even on paper. So to be honest, Personally, I have to give credit to both the American People and Talk Radio.


8 posted on 06/30/2007 9:07:51 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: Man50D
We need to pressure our politicians to enforce the existing immigration laws including deporting illegal aliens, building the fence and prosecuting businesses who do business with illegal aliens.

I have come to the conclusion that a concerted, well-coordinated, sustained effort on prosecuting businesses who aid and abet illegal aliens would almost make the fence and deportation activities redundant. Heavy fines and jail terms for hiring illegal aliens would make their jobs dry up - killing their incentive to come here. So, start enforcing this now!

9 posted on 06/30/2007 9:07:54 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: Patriotic Thunder

Where you put the YEA in Red. That is a starting point of the 70% and they all need to be replaced


10 posted on 06/30/2007 9:09:00 AM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: Patriotic Thunder
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea & Nay

Senator Brownback voted for amnesty before he voted against it!

11 posted on 06/30/2007 9:09:20 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: apocalypto
All the calls made the difference.

Now, let's all try to understand something here. If all these calls "made a difference" on defeating this POS Amnesty Bill, then why can't WE do it on other Bills? We now know it work with some of the RINO/MODERATES to understand the grassroot means business. I think this is a shot across the bow of these senators and congressmen.

WE, THE PEOPLE, are the BOSS of you!

12 posted on 06/30/2007 9:10:49 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Dov in Houston

I totally agree, some people that stuck out for me was Joe Lieberman (Sean Hannity’s boy) and a Republican presidential candidate (Kansas Brownback). At least Brownback got smart along the way, but “Vote Joe” let us all down.


13 posted on 06/30/2007 9:11:32 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: Man50D

I tried to look at the immigration bill on Thomas, but it “wasn’t available”. Does anyone have a link to the actual bill?


14 posted on 06/30/2007 9:13:37 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Patriotic Thunder
I agree. Laura Ingraham was impressive. Others also.

Loud Dobbs just said on the radio: "Calling illegal aliens 'undocumented workers' is like calling drug dealers 'unlicensed pharmacists.'"

15 posted on 06/30/2007 9:14:11 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Patriotic Thunder

“North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Nay “

Did the ND people give them oposite instructions?
Both Dems, why cancel each others vote?

Dorgan’s up for election next.


16 posted on 06/30/2007 9:14:21 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: aimhigh

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN01639:


17 posted on 06/30/2007 9:16:09 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: sirchtruth

A scare was put into more than one Senator, and yes it should work for other things also. Few would be as dangerous as this bill. I must admit, the bill caught me by surprise like being hit by a truck.


18 posted on 06/30/2007 9:16:38 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: apocalypto

Isn’t that the truth


19 posted on 06/30/2007 9:16:54 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: Patriotic Thunder
Thanks for this post. I'm out of town for a couple days but just had to check in on the goings-on. This one's being printed out for sure!
A big BTTT
20 posted on 06/30/2007 9:17:38 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: dynoman

You answered your own question, I guess I should digged further and seen who voted Nay and were Democrat if they were entering an election season....Things that make you HMMMMM.


21 posted on 06/30/2007 9:17:57 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: sirchtruth
Now, let's all try to understand something here. If all these calls "made a difference" on defeating this POS Amnesty Bill, then why can't WE do it on other Bills?

Here's one for you to chew on. La Raza is the hispanic group pushing to grant amnesty to illegal aliens to acheive their goal of taking control of a portion of the southwest the think belongs to them. did you know there is a bill before Congress that will grant them millions of dollars for their cause? here it is;

110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1999 To authorize appropriations for assistance for the National Council of La Raza and the Raza Development Fund.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 23, 2007 Mr. HINOJOSA (for himself and Mr. RENZI) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Financial Services

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A BILL To authorize appropriations for assistance for the National Council of La Raza and the Raza Development Fund.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Hope Fund Act of 2007'.

SEC. 2. ASSISTANCE FOR NATIONAL COUNCIL OF LA RAZA AND RAZA DEVELOPMENT FUND.

(a) Use- The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development shall, to the extent amounts are made available pursuant to subsection (b), make a grant to the National Council of La Raza for the purpose of providing technical and financial assistance to local non-profit organizations to undertake community development and affordable housing projects and programs serving low- and moderate-income households, particularly through organizations located in neighborhoods with substantial populations of income-disadvantaged households of Hispanic origin. Assistance provided by the Secretary under this section may be used by the National Council of La Raza or the Raza Development Fund to--

(1) provide technical and financial assistance for site acquisition and development, construction financing, and short- and long-term financing for housing, community facilities, and economic development;

(2) leverage capital from private entities, including private financial institutions, insurance companies, and private philanthropic organizations;

(3) provide technical assistance, training, support, and advice to develop the management, financial, and administrative capabilities of housing development organizations serving low-income households, including Hispanic households; and

(4) conduct such other activities as may be determined by the Secretary and the National Council of La Raza.

(b) Authorization of Appropriations- There is authorized to be appropriated for grants under this section--

(1) $5,000,000 for fiscal year 2008; and

(2) $10,000,000 for each fiscal year thereafter.

The links is http://thomas.loc.gov/. Just type in the bill number H.R.1999, select bill number and click on search for more details.
22 posted on 06/30/2007 9:18:56 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

bumping


23 posted on 06/30/2007 9:20:51 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: aimhigh
I tried to look at the immigration bill on Thomas, but it “wasn’t available”. Does anyone have a link to the actual bill?

The link is http://thomas.loc.gov


Enter the bill number, select bill and click the search button.
24 posted on 06/30/2007 9:22:29 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Here’s your link to the actual bill, if you can force yourself from vomiting at the lady killer who wrote it, you can find my source for writing the article.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.1639:


25 posted on 06/30/2007 9:24:45 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: Patriotic Thunder

The Congressional recess coming up should afford many of us the opportunity to get some valuable “face time” with our respective congress critters. Some of these folks will be holding Town Hall Meetings around their states/districts. A call to one of their local offices or a visit to their web sites ought to give you the schedule.

The recent immigration dust-up brought a lot of new folks into the fray over who runs the country. Because the forces of darkness never rest, IT IS VITAL THAT THESE NEW FOLKS NOT GO BACK TO SLEEP. Sadly, most of them will.

I predicted that illegal immigration would be a hot-button issue over 10 years ago when more than 70% of those at Newt’s meetings – where I regularly went to gin up support for the Fair Tax (then called the National Retail Sales Tax) — were mad as hell and beating him up on the illegal situation. While he never has come out directly for the Fair Tax, more than once, Newt coupled the two issues by suggesting that the over 100,000 IRS agents be given a weapon and training and sent to guard the border with Mexico. Newt KNOWS how to couple.

If YOUR critters ARE having meetings – and if not during THIS recess, unless their names are Reid, Pelosi, Graham or Schumer, they will almost certainly have them in the run-up to the election – please think about attending, taking the mike and telling them what YOU think. Even if THEY fail to heed your words, you just may educate the audience to some new problem. Heck, you may even get a heart-warming round of applause.

If nothing else, it’s excellent THEATER to watch some of these folks artfully dodge questions, shuck and jive around a tough issue about which they have absolutely NO knowledge, have their overflowing drool-cups changed by one of their flunkies, etc. so TAKE A CARLOAD with you.

See you there???


26 posted on 06/30/2007 9:30:18 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Wor)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

To me the worst aspect of this near disaster is this:

The bill was so poorly thought out and written that none of the Senators really knew and understood the total content.

They could not have a clear view of what the total impact would be but overall it was clearly against the best interests of the country.

Yet anywhere from 46 to 64 Senators and the President of the USA were prepared to vote it into law.

They had no problem disregarding these facts:

1 - The bill was full of conflicting provisions, half truths, ouright lies

2 - Many of the provisions were so unrealistic that everyone knew the government would not and could not keep its word to implement them

3 - There were a few (very few) somewhat reasonable ammendments that everyone knew would be stripped out before the bill became law

4 - The cost projections were astronomical

5 - There would be very little positive impact on reducing the entry of illegals

Many of the Senators along with the President and some of his cabinet act as if they are in office to persue the agenda of the pro-illegal groups instead of the interests of the republic and the voters who put them in office and pay their salaries.
The Secretary of Homeland Security spent his time lecturing us on the needs of illegal aliens instead of explaining why he isin’t protecting our borders.

We need a total overhaul of the government.


27 posted on 06/30/2007 9:31:04 AM PDT by BoneShaker (Where's The Fence?)
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To: Dick Bachert

Hey, I love the Fair Tax Plan, it’s the most researched bill ever to be introduced into legislation. You all think people got interested in Immigration, if you all knew only 10% of what the Fair Tax plan does how excited you would all be. Hence a article I written a few months ago.
http://www.patrioticthunder.com/whackjoboftheweek16.htm


28 posted on 06/30/2007 9:33:53 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: SwinneySwitch
Senator Brownback voted for amnesty before he voted against it!

Which means he has to go. He can't be trusted. He still believes in amnesty and will vote for it if he thinks he can get away with it. The only way to protect our country is to get him out of office.

Personally, I think that applies to every one of them that switched. Nothing but a vote of political expediency.

29 posted on 06/30/2007 9:50:55 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Oh I agree, Senator “Brokeback” is a douche bag, you watch, he’ll get slammed in the primary, personally, I think he is only a presidential candidate because he knows his “pretty cheeks” won’t survive a primary election in Kansas without this type of exposure.


30 posted on 06/30/2007 9:58:34 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: Patriotic Thunder
McConnell switched from Yea to Nay from Tuesday to Thursday, but on the Thursday vote, he didn’t bother to vote UNTIL there were the necessary 40 Nays to kill the bill. So, I’m not putting much stock in that switch. I think he just voted Nay to tell the folks back here in KY that he voted the way we wanted him to at last. I’m still not convinced he actually wanted the bill defeated.
31 posted on 06/30/2007 10:05:49 AM PDT by AFMobster
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To: Man50D

“, let’s all try to understand something here. If all these calls “made a difference” on defeating this POS Amnesty Bill, then why can’t WE do it on other Bills?

Here’s one for you to chew on. La Raza is the hispanic group pushing to grant amnesty to illegal aliens to acheive their goal of taking control of a portion of the southwest the think belongs to them. did you know there is a bill before Congress that will grant them millions of dollars for their cause? here it is;

110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1999 To authorize appropriations for assistance for the National Council of La Raza and the Raza Development Fund.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 23, 2007 Mr. HINOJOSA (for himself and Mr. RENZI) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Financial Services”

Anyone who votes for this bill should be kicked out of office. La Raza(The Race) is a bigoted hate filled organization made up of latinos that want to reconquer the southwest. So if this bill passes congress has taken YOUR money and given it to this dispicable group who wants to take over the southwest.


32 posted on 06/30/2007 10:13:16 AM PDT by doc
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To: Ken522

Here’s some good news for our boy Mel:

“Florida Sen. Mel Martinez After being named chairman of the Republican National Committee — giving him a powerful bully pulpit for the party — Martinez wasn’t able to muster much political muscle in support of immigration reform.

And his backing of the bill has cost him politically back home, according to a just-released InsiderAdvantage poll. According to the poll, Martinez’s approval rating in Florida is now at 23 percent, while 47 percent disapprove of his performance. Thirty-one percent said they had no opinion.”

We will remember in 2010.


33 posted on 06/30/2007 10:19:08 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: doc
I totally agree, this bill is still in committee, lets make sure it stays tabled forever, in the meantime, secure the damn borders.
34 posted on 06/30/2007 10:19:52 AM PDT by Patriotic Thunder
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Brownback Says He Intended to Switch Vote on Immigration (Presdiential Candidate CYA Time)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1858307/posts


35 posted on 06/30/2007 10:20:38 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Oldhunk

I’m so glad that we changed Norm Coleman’s mind on this, but he still has RINO leanings.

As for the Fair Tax, I really have to think on this. On the onset, it looks like a good idea, but something about it is eating at me and I haven’t figured it out yet.


36 posted on 06/30/2007 10:23:13 AM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: Patriotic Thunder

Some real pieces of crap on that list.

I hope everyone’s paying close attention and will vote accordingly.

Throw the bums out!


37 posted on 06/30/2007 10:23:34 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

bookmark for later homework!


38 posted on 06/30/2007 10:25:13 AM PDT by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

New Mexico Domenici and Binaman voted yea on26 and ney on 28th.


39 posted on 06/30/2007 10:32:13 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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To: Ken522

“Both of my Senators, Nelson and Martinez, have shown they don’t listen to their constituents ... they need the boot!”

Yes! They are mine too, and they do need the boot! I signed the petition to re-call Martinez, but guess I am dreaming that it could possibly be done!


40 posted on 06/30/2007 10:38:12 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: apocalypto
Calling illegal aliens 'undocumented workers' is like calling drug dealers 'unlicensed pharmacists'.

Classic--and right on target!

41 posted on 06/30/2007 10:47:34 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea

like any rational sane thinking person has any chance in the great people’s republic of NJ????

the first ~ braindead...the seocnd a hispanic determine to get the rest of the spanish speaking world into the US for more lib/dem votes!!!


42 posted on 06/30/2007 11:29:03 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Patriotic Thunder

I am looking for the actual bill and this link get you nowhere....got a better idea? I am still looking....thanks.


43 posted on 06/30/2007 11:30:19 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: yoe
Try this: (comprehensive immigration reform)
44 posted on 06/30/2007 11:32:56 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: blam

Nah, we need him here.


45 posted on 06/30/2007 11:46:28 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: Ken522

And Maryland has two that are not bothered about what their constituents think or want.


46 posted on 06/30/2007 12:00:57 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Patriotic Thunder
Politics makes strange bedfellows.

It looks as though Senators from larger, more urban states were a lot more likely to vote for the bill.

Some of them have a lot of immigrants and illegals living in their states.

Others depend a lot on money from big business.

Also, the larger the population, the less likely a representative is to be called to account.

For some Senators, there's not much of an excuse or explanation, though, except maybe a general insulation from day-to-day realities.

47 posted on 06/30/2007 12:19:31 PM PDT by x
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To: seekthetruth

But the recall petition might cause Senator Martinez to worry. he has been caught lying big time. Somebody stated that he is lacking in courage.


48 posted on 06/30/2007 1:19:18 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: seekthetruth

I signed the recall petition, too. I’m under no illusion that we’ll actually get him recalled, but if enough disgruntled Floridians sign it, that should give encouragement to any conservative considering a primary challenge against him. So the more signatures, the better.


49 posted on 06/30/2007 1:24:22 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: LadyNavyVet

Problem is it only lets you sign once, and there are two voters in this house who will not support Martinez again!


50 posted on 06/30/2007 1:34:48 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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