Skip to comments.Ultrasounds Used To Change Minds
Posted on 07/01/2007 4:49:12 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
The increasing use of ultrasound exams at crisis pregnancy centers brings criticism from clinics that provide abortion. They see its use as manipulating pregnant women. Eve Espey, obstetrician/gynecologist at University of New Mexico Health Sciences Center, said CPCs are looking at legislation to force women to view an ultrasound before having an abortion.
"I think it's very much a coercive measure," said Espey, "because I think it gets back to your basic right to have the information you want to have."
(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...
Do you have a prolife ping list?
Yes, didn’t you read that in the Constitution?
cgk, Coleus, cpforlife.org and narses have pro-life ping lists, 8mmMauser does the “Terri Daily” thread which is pro-life related.
Thanks, wagglebee....I thought this article was so outrageous it should be seen.
So that is how my wife does it!!!
In any other surgical procedure, from a root canal to open heart surgery, the patient is shown x-rays,ultrsounds and any other imagery that can be obtained about the area in question. Why is abortion the only procedure where the patient is kept in the dark
This is the statement of one who has lost the argument before it began.
“Why is abortion the only procedure where the patient is kept in the dark?”
Because the ultrasound would show that the “tissue” was in fact a living , growing fetus :)
The BASIC RIGHT to have the information I want to have. Sweet, I’ll have to check the Bill of Rights on this one, but I’m down with this.
Every time Hillary opens her mouth, and I inadvertently hear her, I’m going to sue her for a violation of my BASIC RIGHTS.
Al Gore - I’ve heard about the Inconvenient Truth. Not only is it inconvenient, I don’t want to know. It’s a basic right of mine and you have been violating my rights.
Do you think Edwards will take the case? I heard he likes specious lawsuits...
Sounds like someone's brain has been used as a latrine.
As an aside, foetus is Latin for "offspring". Fetus sounds cold and clinical but it's meaning is not. ;)
Eve Espey, obstetrician/gynecologist at University of New Mexico Health Sciences Center
Being that she’s basically the school nurse at a public university I’d say that there’s just about a 100% chance that you are correct on your latrine comment ,, why would our children at a public university where they are supposed to be taught critical thinking need something as irrelevant as the facts before killing their child ... I tried to read more of the article but that paper requires a subscription..
Shame, guilt, avoiding the truth, etc., etc., etc...
I think it is a wonderful tool, and it is the least a mother could do before having her child ripped to shreds. Anything to save lives.
freepmail narses, runs the catholic ping list, but knows who runs the pro-life pings as well (i think)
Actress Patricia Heaton (of “Raymond” fame) gave $1.5 million of her own money to buy 3D Ultrasound machines for clinics to discourage women from having abortions. God bless her. That is $1.5 million more than so-called pro-life George W. Bush has proposed to spend (in addition to his not cutting a single penny from the $262 million federal subsidies to Planned Parenthood).
Can anyone tell me why that bunch of butchers should get one single dime of tazpayers’ money?
I also want to say that anyone or any group can do fundraising for your local CPC and its quite simple. I posted the steps that we found most effective on my site http://cpforlife.org/id157.htm Feel free to Freepmail me with any questions.
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>> “I think it’s very much a coercive measure,” said Espey, “because I think it gets back to your basic right to have the information you want to have.”
Before you are two sealed tanks each with a small vent at the top. One tank is empty, the other contains a small beautiful child. You’re required to fill one and only one tank with water. Would you like to know which tank encloses the child?
Can anyone tell me why that bunch of butchers should get one single dime of tazpayers money? >>>
It’s a good question. The pro-life catholic and evangelical republicans in congress and the white house have been “increasing” Title X for family-planning spending for Planned Parenthood and other organizations since the pubs took over congress in 1994 and bush took over the white house in 2001.
$283,000,000 in 2006 in title X and ZERO to crisis pregnancy centers trying to save the lives of babies. I believe medicaid still pays for abortions too.
We also pay the ACLU for the many cases they take to court.
You have the right to remain stupid...?
Hope that wasn’t directed at me.
>> >> You have the right to remain stupid...?
>> Hope that wasnt directed at me.
Yeah, that’s the problem with being the messenger. All I can say is “Hit the deck!”.
Right to remain stupid:....They consider it an offense to be disabused of the notion “stupid presumption”..that it is a clump of cells.
It is an imposition of their stupidity to see something with the face, hands and fingers of a human...
I was trying to make a play on the reading of Miranda rights...Sorry if it fell flat...
Is it any wonder we have a generation or two of people who cannot take responsibility for thier own actions?! Large organizations can get away with "murder" (wow! That cliche' works here!) so why not individuals!??
Abusers in Domestic Violence and Abuse do the same thing...project, deflect, play the blame game! Not much different, is it? PP abuses women. It manipulates them, when they are at their greatest need for understanding and compassion!! Instead of compassion, there is manipulation to make them think the best thing for them is to PAY PP to remove the LIFE, which would (deceit) remove the problem from their lives and make everything right again. Psychological abuse. Then further lack of compassion, by sending them out the door, wounded and not providing the appropriate post-abortive counseling!
WOW! A society that PAYS abusers!? But they have the gall to say it is in the best interest of the client? They know what is best!? WOW!! Use the Domestic Violence and Abuse profile and set it side by side with PP. This is freaky!
PING to a few of you!
Excellent post, MountainFlower.
'Shame, guilt, avoiding the truth, etc., etc., etc...'
The shame and guilt usually come afterewards for the post-abortive. PP doesn't bear shame or guilt, they exude the spirit of deceit. Part of the plan is to keep clients in the dark. As long as the clients are in the dark, being deceived, the death-mill can go on, bringing in the money, killing off another generation.
The ultrasounds will save some babies, so they need to fight them! A bill that would require post-abortive counseling would be fought because that would be admitting they are causing harm.
Truth will dispell the deceit, and remove it from the land. Truth is the stories of the post-abortives! Those stories being told will also bring the healing of the post-abortives, as they share their life story. I am NOT promoting exploitation of someone who is post-abortive. The Truth will come as God reaches their hearts.
In the meantime, we are not called to sit on our hands and hope and wait. Babies are being murdered every few seconds. Where is the out cry from the nation??!! Too many are sleeping. Lord, raise them up! Wake them! Move them!
Why, yes! Didn't you see that in the Bill of Rights? It's the 74th Amendment: The Right to Remain Blissfully Ignorant
Translation: "I think it's very much a coercive measure," said Espey, "because I think it gets back to your basic right to NOT have the information you DON'T want to have." ;)
Not even in the league with microwave radiation cooking our brains everywhere in sight of a cell tower.
That's a great comment!