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Expert: Britain Is Jihad Central
NewsMax.com ^ | July 1, 2007

Posted on 07/02/2007 5:40:51 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Expert: Britain Is Jihad Central

NewsMax.com

July 1, 2007

"Britain is at War with the Jihadists, that's the bottom line" says Dr. Walid Phares.

British officials "need to cope with the reality that they are the target of a Jihad war," Dr. Phares told Jack Riccardi on San Antonio's KTSA Saturday.

Dr. Phares, director of the Future Terrorism Project at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a visiting fellow at the European Foundation for Democracy and several books on the Islamic jihad against the West including the most recent "Future Jihad," said that Britain "is one of the most intense battlefields for the jihadists, al Qaeda or not, in the whole European continent. Almost every July there has been either an attack or a foiled plot."

The terrorists, he said, strike different targets, with different cells, "trying different things each time."

Speaking on Fox's "Geraldo at Large" Saturday night, he described the attacks in London and Scotland as being "not just about anger ... Not just about [former Prime Minister Tony Blair]" but "about the British government, so they [the Jihadists] are going to test it [the British government] and see far they will go in the reaction."

In the quest for "reasons" for the terrorist assaults on Britain in the past two days, Dr. Phares told the San Francisco Chronicle's Ross Report that "As expected, the debate is loaded with the classical argument of "anger mounting among Muslims in Britain."

Since the 7/7 attacks, a so-called socio-economic doctrine was injected in the discussion ... That the perpetrators are allegedly "reacting to the marginalization of the Muslim community on economic grounds."

Instead, said Phares, the growth of Jihadism is not the result of socio-economic disparities, but of the expansion of Wahabism, Salafism and other forms of radical ideologies. British understanding of the whole picture cannot complete itself unless a clear cut absorption of the fact that what the U.K. (and many other democracies) are facing now and in the future is a "War," not dispersed acts of violence.


TOPICS: Editorial; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedauk; jihadineurope; walidphares

1 posted on 07/02/2007 5:40:52 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims

NewsMax.com Wires

Thursday, June 20, 2002

WASHINGTON – A leader of the small worldwide Muslim reform movement is warning the West against wishful thinking as the U.S. government promotes an intensive dialogue with Islam.

"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

This Is 'Peace'?

"First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them. The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world," explained Tibi, who is also a research scholar at Harvard University.

"This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought, a concept developed by Immanuel Kant," an 18th-century philosopher.

This Is 'Tolerance'?

"Similarly, when Muslims and the Western heirs of the Enlightenment speak of tolerance they have different things in mind. In Islamic terminology, this term implies abiding non-Islamic monotheists, such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, as second-class believers. They are 'dhimmi,' a protected but politically immature minority."

According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview. Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a "Dar al-Islam," will it also be a "Dar a-Salam," or a house of peace.

Tibi appealed to his co-religionists to "revise their understanding of peace and tolerance by accepting pluralism." Furthermore, he said, Muslim leaders should give up the notion of Jihad in the sense of conquest, as opposed to Jihad as an internal struggle of the individual.

Liberal Mush

Tibi's advice comes at a time when the U.S. government is urging American Muslim leaders to promote understanding for the United States in Islamic regions. To Tibi, this is more of a diplomatic endeavor than the promotion of a more profound theological understanding between Islam and the Judeo-Christian worldview prevalent in the West.

But Muzammil Siddiqi, one senior Islamic scholar the State Department consults with, told UPI he found that his efforts in furthering contacts between Muslim, Christian and Jewish theologians were having some success.

Indian-born Siddiqi is the director of the large Islamic Center of Orange County in California. In consultation with the State Department and in cooperation with the University of Kentucky, he traveled back and forth between the United States and the Middle East trying to convince Muslim theologians and jurists to meet with American church leaders.

"I have found that many, though not all, were ready to welcome visitors from America and also to come here to explore with Christians and Jews what we have in common," Siddiqi said.

Though Siddiqi's center is heavily engaged in interfaith activities, he made it clear that to him, as indeed for conservative Christians, syncretism – the mixing of religions – was anathema.

Common values should be sought out, he explained, and the equality of all believers respected, be they Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists. But the purity of the faith must not be compromised.

In an article in the prestigious Hamburg weekly Die Zeit, Tibi gave anecdotal evidence of how daunting a task this dialogue with Islam can be.

Staring in Horror at the Bible

The bishop of Hildesheim in Germany paid an imam a courtesy visit in his mosque. The imam handed the Catholic prelate a Koran, which he joyfully accepted. But when the bishop tried to present the imam with a Bible, the Muslim cleric just stared at him in horror and refused to even touch Christianity's holy book.

"The bishop was irritated because he perceived this behavior as a gross discourtesy," wrote Tibi, "but the imam had only acted according to his faith. For if an imam gives a bishop a Koran, he considers this a Da'Wa, or call to Islam."

This, explained Tibi, must be borne in mind when one engages in a dialogue with Muslim "scholars," for it corresponds to a verse in the Koran: "And say ... to those who are unlearned: 'Do ye submit yourselves?'" (Surah 3:20).
2 posted on 07/02/2007 5:47:52 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Death Cult? Statement of the obvious.
Now comes the time for the Brits to open the internment camps and start locking up the Muslims.
Keep them locked up until they renounce their vile religion/cult and then deport them to Saudia Arabia, or another warm tropical climate that knows how to deal with this type of insanity...


3 posted on 07/02/2007 5:53:11 PM PDT by 9422WMR ("This will make parents, students, faculty and visitors FEEL SAFE on our campus")
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To: Man50D

Thanks for the article. Too many non-Muslims think that Islam is a religion, when in reality it’s an insane death cult.


4 posted on 07/02/2007 5:54:09 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: 9422WMR

There’s only one way to deal with this type of insanity. Nobody wants to face it.


5 posted on 07/02/2007 5:58:13 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Thanks for the article. Too many non-Muslims think that Islam is a religion, when in reality it’s an insane death cult.

Your welcome and I agree. The government has already established a precedent how it will deals with cults when it destroyed the Branch Davidian compound.
6 posted on 07/02/2007 6:01:15 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The [Iranians] President’s chief strategist, Hassan Abbassi, has come up with a war plan based on the premise that “Britain is the mother of all evils” – the evils being America, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, the Gulf states and even Canada, all of whom are the malign progeny of the British Empire. “We have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization,” says Mr Abbassi. “There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them… Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover.”


7 posted on 07/02/2007 6:11:34 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: Man50D

Doesn’t Great Britian have some old law about being disloyal to the crown that they could use to deport all these future terrorists?


8 posted on 07/02/2007 6:16:22 PM PDT by mknj
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To: Free ThinkerNY

stunning...


10 posted on 07/02/2007 6:56:11 PM PDT by Mamzelle (We need a new, conservative chairman of the RNC first, because the elites are about to take revenge)
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To: HillaryChavez

No, we (and most Britons) are going to win this war Vis-a-vis Islamist Jihad because the West has no choice but to win or perish.

Do not despair: the pendulum swings, even now it’s swinging away from appeasement in Scotland, all over the U.K., and even in every little cabal of civilization. I mean, it’s becoming obvious: the base, violent Islamic hostility, the lack of moderate Islamic condemnation, and the hypocrisy of Islamic sham civil rights demands.


11 posted on 07/02/2007 8:16:42 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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