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Don't Be So Sure There Were No WMD in Iraq
The American Thinker ^ | July 3, 2007 | Rachel Neuwirth

Posted on 07/03/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by Quilla

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Excellent synopsis.
1 posted on 07/03/2007 5:39:59 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Truth be known, the truth cannot and will never be told about the wmd’s. We know the wmd’s were there, so where are the wmd’s now?


2 posted on 07/03/2007 5:47:36 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Quilla
Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and other Democrats, all saw the same intelligence back when Clinton was President and George Tenet headed the CIA. They all claimed Iraq had WMD which threatened America. If there really were no WMD, why are they not held equally accountable for misleading the American people?

I actually have had several moonbats answer this for me. Their response is
"They didn't invade/start a war/etc".

The democrats making the same assertions are held blameless because....
They were too GUTLESS to do anything about it. That's the answer.

3 posted on 07/03/2007 5:52:01 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Quilla

It would not surprise me that there is general agreement amongst the highest level of the gubermint, both parties, that the real answer would scare the bejeebus out of the world and therefore must remain a deepest, darkest secret. It probably has something to do with international blackmail and sets of missiles retargeted in a kind of doomsday scenario. Only explanation that fits.


4 posted on 07/03/2007 5:52:30 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: Quilla

I still maintain that WMD’s were moved to Syria and are still there. FGS the History Channel had night vision photos of a massive amount of trucks moving from Iraq to Syria before the war broke out. Haven’t been able to source that footage since then. They also had photos of the underground labs.


5 posted on 07/03/2007 5:53:01 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Quilla

3. Massive amounts of WMD were removed to known locations in Syria just prior to the war.

Does anyone remember seeing the satellite footage of the caravans of Iraqi military vehicles heading to Syria which was shown in the weeks before we went to war in Iraq? The muteness of the Bush administration from the time this criticism started is frustrating.


6 posted on 07/03/2007 5:53:25 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Quilla

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten time since 1983.” - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry( D - MA), and others Oct. 9,1998
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
“There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...” - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force— if necessary— to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” - Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real” - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


7 posted on 07/03/2007 5:54:21 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Quilla

Bookmarked


8 posted on 07/03/2007 5:56:47 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Quilla

the reason this all remains a mystery is George Bush. He is dense when it comes to rallying the public to this cause. There is no explanation of the convoys headed to Syria, or any other odd circumstances in Iraq. Additionally, there was no leadership in the Senate. Why weren’t there hearings? The drive-bys have gelded the President and the Senate Republicans.


9 posted on 07/03/2007 5:58:57 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: NonValueAdded
We've been through this already:

1) Iraq had WMD's.

2) Putin helped Saddam remove them to Syria before the invasion.

3) Bush took the "No WMD's in Iraq" domestic political hit to defend Putin's image, fearing the consequences of having the Russian nuclear arsenal fall into the hands of a Zhirinovsky-type fascist would be much worse.

4) No one thinks Syria is dumb enough to use Iraq's WMD's (mostly chemical warheads) in any way - but having them makes Bashar Assad feel like a "player", so everyone has agreed to leave him to his delusions.

10 posted on 07/03/2007 6:02:25 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Quilla

Hell, yes!!!

Why do you think the Iraqis and their allies here and in Europe kept stalling and demanding revisions of UN resolutions?

“It’s on the wrong size paper!”

“It wasn’t properly reviewed!”

“We need another procedural vote!”

What do you think they were doing? BUYING TIME!!!!
And don’t give me this garbage about how the Iraqis and Syrians or whomever “don’t like each other”, so they wouldn’t send any weapons there. Doesn’t anybody realize that the expression “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” originated in the middle east?

This topic sets me off every time it comes up. People, especially the “press”, are just so damn stupid.


11 posted on 07/03/2007 6:02:27 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: From One - Many
Truth be known, the truth cannot and will never be told about the wmd’s.

Yes because in reality they've been transported over the past four years to Area 51. WMDs will go for the betterment of mankind to help fuel the alien's spacecraft so they can return one day with medicines allowing us to live fantastically long lives....

Give it a rest. They weren't there. The intelligence was bad. They haven't been found, they're not buried in car garages, and they weren't all transported to Syria in 'secret' truck convoys. When all else fails the simplest answer is the correct one. Not found, not there.

"Dave Gaubatz, however, says you could not be more wrong. Saddam's WMD did exist. He should know because he found the sites where he is certain they were stored. And the reason you don't know about this is that the American administration failed to act on his information, ‘lost' his classified reports and is now doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the terrible fact that, through its own incompetence, it allowed Saddam's WMD to end up in the hands of the very terrorist states against whom it is so controversially at war."

I bet Dave believes in little green men too.

12 posted on 07/03/2007 6:02:33 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Bluebird Singing; Bold strike

Does anyone remember Rummy saying that as soon as we said we knew where they were, they would be moved?


13 posted on 07/03/2007 6:03:03 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: chaosagent

Another great article worth a bookmark:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21448


14 posted on 07/03/2007 6:05:27 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: From One - Many

ping


15 posted on 07/03/2007 6:05:40 AM PDT by phs3 (If you call a terrorist a freedom fighter, I call you the enemy.)
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To: billbears; From One - Many

I can tell you that both of you are in for a rude awakening.


16 posted on 07/03/2007 6:06:55 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: From One - Many; sarasota
From my files:

On June 9th [2004], the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"

Source

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."

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"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."

In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.

"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.

Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.

In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.

"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."

Source

"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).

Source

"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."

Source

"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."

Source

17 posted on 07/03/2007 6:07:58 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Quilla

I’m certain that there WERE WMD in Iraq. And instead of being so eager to show-off Saddam Hussein being captured in his spider hole on live TV, it might have made more sense to rendition him elsewhere and waterboard him until he told the truth about where he sent ‘em.

He could always have been “captured” later on “live” TV, with no impact to the final outcome.

My bet is he sent them to Syria.


18 posted on 07/03/2007 6:09:24 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: READINABLUESTATE

self ping


19 posted on 07/03/2007 6:12:59 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("life is dangerous")
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To: ravingnutter
Thank you. Just in case you missed this one: What Charles Duelfer Missed
20 posted on 07/03/2007 6:15:01 AM PDT by Quilla
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