BBC: Pakistan warns mosque militants (The Red Mosque...10 recently killed ...)

BBC ^ | Wednesday, 4 July 2007, 00:08 GMT 01:08 UK | BBC Staff

[Nathan Zachary]

"The proper way to conduct the operation is to holler (in the local language), "you are ordered to lay down your arms and come out with your hands on top of your heads," but with the sound of gov't small arms fire drowning out the end of it as the troops storm in. Or just detonate explosives and demolish the structure with the stupid bastards still inside, then bulldoze what's left of it, and them."

The problem with this whole situation is Mushraff knows that these 'students' are just following the Ways of Mohammad and the Koran to the letter.
It's really not those inside the mosk they are worried about should they storm them, it's all the nutters outside the mosk who are just "peacefull, devote Muslims" as well.

[Nathan Zachary]

"No Burkas for my grandaughters...they look like witches outfits...."

By the looks of the way things are going in this country, They won't have any choice in the matter, and their husbands will make sure they obey Moes rules to the letter, as well as their husbands authority over them

[Fred Nerks]

http://muhammadanism.org/Canon_Sell/default.htm

you can also download THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD published in 1913, written by Edward, Canon Sell, a Fellow of the University of Madras, India. The original source notes are fascinating and irrefutable.

Sell wrote a number of works on islam, all available on PDF

[Proud_USA_Republican]

Let me guess. The saudis fund this mosque.

[expatguy]

such a profound metaphor you chose there.

[Valin]

Hundreds leave Pakistani mosque
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6268786.stm

At least 700 students have surrendered at a mosque besieged by Pakistani security forces in the capital, Islamabad, officials say.
Militant students inside the compound have been told to give themselves up, after fierce gun battles with security forces killed 10 people on Tuesday.

Several thousand people remain inside the Red Mosque (Lal Masjid) complex, many young students at a girls’ school.
Clerics at the mosque are campaigning for Islamic Sharia law to be enforced.

‘They are children’

Troops sealed off the area around the mosque after Tuesday’s clashes and no-one is able to get within about one kilometre of the site.
At daybreak, soldiers strung barbed wire across streets near the mosque, where armed students have barricaded themselves in.
“My two daughters are inside and I am worried about them,” one parent, Mohammad Javed, told the BBC. “They are 14 and 10 years old.
“I have talked to them and they are willing to die for Islam. It is the government’s fault, they should back down.”

Another man said he had been trying to persuade his brother to come out.
“What the students are doing is because they are immature and young... They don’t understand the consequences.”
An indefinite curfew is in place around the Red Mosque, and power and water supplies have been cut off.
Those inside have been ordered to give up their weapons, although officials have said they do not want more bloodshed.

Hard core

Clerics, acting as intermediaries, held overnight talks with both sides, but there has been no sign of a breakthrough.
At least two deadlines set by the government for students to surrender have passed.
The government has said women and children can go free, but top mosque leaders and males involved in killings and other crimes will face prosecution.

Officials say several thousand students remain inside the mosque compound. It is not clear how large the hard core of radicals is.
In addition to those killed, more than 140 people were hurt during Tuesday’s violence, officials said.
People fled from busy shopping areas as masked students traded fire with security forces. Dozens of other students - mostly armed with sticks and petrol bombs - patrolled the area.

‘Security links’

The mosque and the two religious schools attached to it - one for men, the other for women - have recently been the focus of several confrontations with the Pakistani authorities.
These have been provoked by the kidnapping of police officers and of people accused of involvement in prostitution by members of the mosque.
Critics have attacked the government for failing to enforce its authority in the capital.
President Pervez Musharraf has previously said security forces cannot raid the mosque for fear of reprisal suicide attacks.

BBC correspondents say it is thought the mosque has powerful friends in the security services, which has prevented the authorities from taking action.
But the fact that people have now been killed in the stand-off suggests the situation may be turning against the mosque leaders, our correspondents say.

[Valin]

Or just detonate explosives and demolish the structure with the stupid bastards still inside, then bulldoze what’s left of it, and them.

And then what happens?

[blam]

They ought to have snipers picking them off one at a time. Shoot anything that moves.

[sheik yerbouty]

There is an eerie similarity...

[SunkenCiv]

Not too sure Pakistan has a free press, so we probably know more about what’s going on that Pakis do; regardless, the “peaceful devout Muslims” are going to try to overthrow the gov’t anyway, so take the fight to them now, rather than later when they are stronger.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

FRom the BBC:

Mosque leader in burqa escape bid

The cleric stood out from the girls as he "was taller and had a pot belly"

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The leader of a radical mosque besieged by Pakistani security forces in Islamabad has been caught trying to escape wearing a woman's burqa.

Security forces seized Abdul Aziz as he tried to leave the Red Mosque amid a crowd of women.

The mosque has been besieged by Pakistani security forces and militant students holed up inside have been told to give themselves up.

Clerics at the mosque are campaigning for Islamic Sharia law to be enforced.

"He was the last in a group of seven women all wearing the same clothes. He was wearing a burqa that also covered his eyes," a security official told the AFP news agency about the cleric's escape bid.

"Our men spotted his unusual demeanour. The rest of the girls looked like girls, but he was taller and had a pot belly."

About 700 students surrendered at the mosque earlier Wednesday.

Female students who were let out were allowed to go home, while male students were held and searched.

Earlier, troops in armoured personnel carriers surrounded the mosque as helicopter gunships circled overhead.

[SunkenCiv]

Then Pakistan’s answer to John Kerry tries to seize power, promising a nuanced response.

[PGalt]

Thanks for posting. Outstanding FReeper comments BUMP!

(the mosques are our barracks...)

[Valin]

OOOOOK :-)

[Fred Nerks]

what your average islamic student is wearing to school these days...