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Shoeless George Bush (Daniel Pipes: President Bush Fails To Acknowledge Islamofascist Threat Alert)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 07/04/2007 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 07/04/2007 1:14:02 AM PDT by goldstategop

When Dwight D. Eisenhower dedicated the Islamic Center in Washington, D.C., in June 1957, his 500-word talk effused good will ("Civilization owes to the Islamic world some of its most important tools and achievements") even as the American president embarrassingly bumbled (Muslims in the United States, he declared, have the right to their "own church"). Conspicuously, he included nary a word about policy.

Exactly 50 years later, standing shoeless, George W. Bush rededicated the center last week. His 1,600-word speech also praised medieval Islamic culture ("We come to express our appreciation for a faith that has enriched civilization for centuries"), but he knew a mosque from a church – and he had more on the agenda than flattery.

Most arresting, surely, was his statement that "I have invested the heart of my presidency in helping Muslims fight terrorism, and claim their liberty, and find their own unique paths to prosperity and peace." This cri du coeur signaled how Mr. Bush understands to what extent actions by Muslims will define his legacy.

Should they heed his dream "and find their own unique paths to prosperity and peace," then his presidency, however ravaged it may look at the moment, will be vindicated. As with Harry S Truman, historians will acknowledge that he saw further than his contemporaries. Should Muslims, however, be "left behind in the global movement toward prosperity and freedom," historians will likely judge his two terms as harshly as his fellow Americans do today.

Of course, how Muslims fare depends in large part on the future course of radical Islam, which in turn depends in some part on its understanding by the American president. Over the years, Mr. Bush has generally shown an increased understanding of this topic. He started with platitudinous, apologetic references to Islam as the "religion of peace," using this phrase as late as 2006. He early on even lectured Muslims on the true nature of their religion, a presumptuous ambition that prompted me in 2001 to dub him "Imam Bush."

As his understanding grew, Mr. Bush spoke of the caliphate, "Islamic extremism" and "Islamofacism." What euphemistically he called the "war on terror" in 2001, by 2006 he referred to with the hard-hitting "war with Islamic fascists." Things were looking up. Perhaps official Washington did understand the threat, after all.

But such analyses roused Muslim opposition and, as he approaches his political twilight, Mr. Bush has retreated to safer ground, reverting last week to decayed tropes that tiptoe around any mention of Islam. Instead, he spoke inelegantly of "the great struggle against extremism that is now playing out across the broader Middle East" and vaguely of "a group of extremists who seek to use religion as a path to power and a means of domination."

Worse, the speech drum-rolled the appointment of a U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, directing this envoy to "listen to and learn from" his Muslim counterparts. But the OIC is a Saudi-sponsored organization promoting the Wahhabi agenda under the trappings of a Muslim-only United Nations. As counterterrorism specialist Steven Emerson has noted, Bush's dismal initiative stands in "complete ignorance of the rampant radicalism, pro-terrorist, and anti-American sentiments routinely found in statements by the OIC and its leaders."

Adding to the event's accommodationist tone, some of the president's top female aides, including Frances Townsend and Karen Hughes, wore makeshift hijabs as they listened to him in the audience.

In brief, it feels like "déjà vu all over again." As columnist Diana West puts it, "Nearly six years after September 11 — nearly six years after first visiting the Islamic Center and proclaiming ‘Islam is peace' — Mr. Bush has learned nothing." But we now harbor fewer hopes than in 2001 that he still can learn, absorb, and reflect an understanding of the enemy's Islamist nature.

Concluding that he basically has failed to engage this central issue, we instead must look to Mr. Bush's potential successors and look for them to return to his occasional robustness, again taking up those difficult concepts of Islamic extremism, Shari'a, and the caliphate. Several Republicans – Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and (above all) Fred Thompson – are doing just that. Democratic candidates, unfortunately, prefer to remain almost completely silent on this topic.

Almost 30 years after Islamists first attacked Americans, and on the eve of three major attempted terrorist attacks in Great Britain, the president's speech reveals how confused Washington remains.


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President Bush missed the oppportunity to define and confront Islamofascism at the Islamic Center in Washington. Even more disappointing, by appearing shoeless in the Center AND having his female aides wear hijabs, he signaled that America should accomodate Sharia when in fact, Muslims should be REQUIRED to forswear Islamism and accept OUR values. President Bush may not be up to the task of honestly confronting Islamic extremism. Fortunately, the GOP presidential candidates who want to succeed him are. On the other hand, the Democrats all remain silent on the central issue of confronting and defeating Islamofascism - which is I submit - THE ISSUE OF THE 21ST CENTURY. After 9/11, it divides us from everything before. Our response will determine in no small part the future of Western civilization.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/04/2007 1:14:06 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
President Bush did exactly what he should do--give lip service. Meanwhile, overseas, he continues to support our bombing and killing Islamofascists.

Actions, not words, tell the tale.

2 posted on 07/04/2007 1:17:16 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Bostonian, atheist, prolifer)
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To: Darkwolf377

“bombing and killing islamofacists.” damn that has a good ring to it!


3 posted on 07/04/2007 1:20:38 AM PDT by bobby.223
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To: goldstategop

Draft Sarko ‘08


4 posted on 07/04/2007 1:23:32 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: Darkwolf377
"actions"

ditto. I respect Mr. Pipes, but what does he think Bush has been doing for the last six years? Sitting on his hands? Under Bush and Blair's leadership two tyrannical regimes and thousands of Islamo-fascist murderers have been killed or imprisoned. Bush is trying to convince non-violent Islamic countries that their future lies in condemning the I-F killers and assisting the civilized world in turning away from violence. Calling all Muslims terrorists and killers will not persuade them to help the west.

5 posted on 07/04/2007 1:43:18 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: goldstategop

I’m shocked, shocked, to read that Council on Foreign Relations member Daniel Pipes is endorsing fellow CFR globalists Guiliani, Romney, and Fred Thompson. What a coincidence!


6 posted on 07/04/2007 1:47:30 AM PDT by WWTD
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To: bobby.223
“bombing and killing islamofacists.” damn that has a good ring to it!

LOL My first laugh of July 4--thank you!

7 posted on 07/04/2007 1:53:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Bostonian, atheist, prolifer)
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To: driftless2
Calling all Muslims terrorists and killers will not persuade them to help the west.

Exactly right, not that I think anything COULD help convince them to help as much as we'd like.

Bush is already fighting enough battles, he doesn't need to say some rabble-rousing words which simply will not help anything. What, exactly, does Pipes think would be achieved by what he wants Bush to do?

8 posted on 07/04/2007 1:55:25 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Bostonian, atheist, prolifer)
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To: goldstategop

The “War in Terror” is over (nothing more than a bumper sticker) just ask the Media, Democrat Presidential Candidates and Great Britain. Maybe after the next attack on US Soil it will be given it’s proper name “Islamic Wars”.


9 posted on 07/04/2007 1:56:27 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Absolutely and although I am no Brown fan I am hopeful that the PC stuff and dialogue nonsense he has been spouting is just that and although the words may change the actions will not.


10 posted on 07/04/2007 2:12:09 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: Mike Darancette
The “War in Terror” is over

Our troops fighting and dying overseas--in Afghanistan and Iraq and elsewhere--will beg to differ, I'm guessing.

11 posted on 07/04/2007 2:15:25 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Bostonian, atheist, prolifer)
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To: goldstategop

Bush Needs to Read This:

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By HASSAN BUTT - Last updated at 07:38am on 2nd July 2007

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770

Comments (21)

When I was still a member of what is probably best termed the British Jihadi Network - a series of British Muslim terrorist groups linked by a single ideology - I remember how we used to laugh in celebration whenever people on TV proclaimed that the sole cause for Islamic acts of terror like 9/11, the Madrid bombings and 7/7 was Western foreign policy.

By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this “Blair’s bombs” line did our propaganda work for us.

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More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.

The attempts to cause mass destruction in London and Glasgow are so reminiscent of other recent British Islamic extremist plots that they are likely to have been carried out by my former peers.

And as with previous terror attacks, people are again saying that violence carried out by Muslims is all to do with foreign policy.

For example, on Saturday on Radio 4’s Today programme, the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, said: “What all our intelligence shows about the opinions of disaffected young Muslims is the main driving force is not Afghanistan, it is mainly Iraq.”

I left the British Jihadi Network in February 2006 because I realised that its members had simply become mindless killers. But if I were still fighting for their cause, I’d be laughing once again.

Mohammed Sidique Khan met with the author on two separate occasions

Mohammad Sidique Khan, the leader of the July 7 bombings, and I were both part of the network - I met him on two occasions.

And though many British extremists are angered by the deaths of fellow Muslim across the world, what drove me and many others to plot acts of extreme terror within Britain and abroad was a sense that we were fighting for the creation of a revolutionary worldwide Islamic state that would dispense Islamic justice.

If we were interested in justice, you may ask, how did this continuing violence come to be the means of promoting such a (flawed) Utopian goal?

How do Islamic radicals justify such terror in the name of their religion?

There isn’t enough room to outline everything here, but the foundation of extremist reasoning rests upon a model of the world in which you are either a believer or an infidel.

Formal Islamic theology, unlike Christian theology, does not allow for the separation of state and religion: they are considered to be one and the same.

For centuries, the reasoning of Islamic jurists has set down rules of interaction between Dar ul-Islam (the Land of Islam) and Dar ul-Kufr (the Land of Unbelief) to cover almost every matter of trade, peace and war.

But what radicals and extremists do is to take this two steps further. Their first step has been to argue that, since there is no pure Islamic state, the whole world must be Dar ul-Kufr (The Land of Unbelief).

Step two: since Islam must declare war on unbelief, they have declared war upon the whole world.

Along with many of my former peers, I was taught by Pakistani and British radical preachers that this reclassification of the globe as a Land of War (Dar ul-Harb) allows any Muslim to destroy the sanctity of the five rights that every human is granted under Islam: life, wealth, land, mind and belief.

In Dar ul-Harb, anything goes, including the treachery and cowardice of attacking civilians.

The notion of a global battlefield has been a source of friction for Muslims living in Britain.

For decades, radicals have been exploiting the tensions between Islamic theology and the modern secular state - typically by starting debate with the question: “Are you British or Muslim?”

But the main reason why radicals have managed to increase their following is because most Muslim institutions in Britain just don’t want to talk about theology.

They refuse to broach the difficult and often complex truth that Islam can be interpreted as condoning violence against the unbeliever - and instead repeat the mantra that Islam is peace and hope that all of this debate will go away.

This has left the territory open for radicals to claim as their own. I should know because, as a former extremist recruiter, I repeatedly came across those who had tried to raise these issues with mosque authorities only to be banned from their grounds.

Every time this happened it felt like a moral and religious victory for us because it served as a recruiting sergeant for extremism.

Outside Britain, there are those who try to reverse this two-step revisionism.

A handful of scholars from the Middle East have tried to put radicalism back in the box by saying that the rules of war devised so long ago by Islamic jurists were always conceived with the existence of an Islamic state in mind, a state which would supposedly regulate jihad in a responsible Islamic fashion.

In other words, individual Muslims don’t have the authority to go around declaring global war in the name of Islam.

But there is a more fundamental reasoning that has struck me as a far more potent argument because it involves recognising the reality of the world: Muslims don’t actually live in the bipolar world of the Middle Ages any more.

The fact is that Muslims in Britain are citizens of this country. We are no longer migrants in a Land of Unbelief.

For my generation, we were born here, raised here, schooled here, we work here and we’ll stay here.

But more than that, on a historically unprecedented scale, Muslims in Britain have been allowed to assert their religious identity through clothing, the construction of mosques, the building of cemeteries and equal rights in law.

However, it isn’t enough for responsible Muslims to say that, because they feel at home in Britain, they can simply ignore those passages of the Koran which instruct on killing unbelievers.

Because so many in the Muslim community refuse to challenge centuries-old theological arguments, the tensions between Islamic theology and the modern world grow larger every day.

I believe that the issue of terrorism can be easily demystified if Muslims and non-Muslims start openly to discuss the ideas that fuel terrorism.

Crucially, the Muslim community in Britain must slap itself awake from its state of denial and realise there is no shame in admitting the extremism within our families, communities and worldwide co-religionists.

If our country is going to take on radicals and violent extremists, Muslim scholars must go back to the books and come forward with a refashioned set of rules and a revised understanding of the rights and responsibilities of Muslims whose homes and souls are firmly planted in what I’d like to term the Land of Co-existence.

And when this new theological territory is opened up, Western Muslims will be able to liberate themselves from defunct models of the world, rewrite the rules of interaction and perhaps we will discover that the concept of killing in the name of Islam is no more than an anachronism.


12 posted on 07/04/2007 2:52:29 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: Darkwolf377
Actions, not words, tell the tale

This is a war of ideas, too. Something Ann Coulter and just a few besides her have the courage to do.

13 posted on 07/04/2007 3:57:54 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: goldstategop

Funny thing—all this article did for me is to immediately bring to mind the following...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53371


14 posted on 07/04/2007 4:16:48 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: goldstategop

“Shoeless?”

Shouldn’t that read “Clueless?”


15 posted on 07/04/2007 4:49:59 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Wor)
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To: Gracey
"Muslim scholars must go back to the books and come forward with a refashioned set of rules and a revised understanding of the rights and responsibilities of Muslims whose homes and souls are firmly planted in what I’d like to term the Land of Co-existence.

Ah the land of co-existance... where green clovers yellow moons and blue diamonds live in peace...

No such critter in Is-Slime! They will declare hudna/ceasefire/rearm/reload, untill they are capable of murdering you and every one else!

Is-Slime IS the problem! It must be outlawed! It has all the redeeming social qualities, and values of headhunting, and cannabalism!

16 posted on 07/04/2007 4:52:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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To: goldstategop
Okay, let's take "PC" off the table for a bit and honestly answer a couple of essay questions.

First, what value has islam brought to the world in the last hundreds of years? In other words, what contributions has islam given us that elevate humans and advance humanity?

Second, what has islam cost the world in terms of human lives lost, capital resources spent and intellectual energies used up fighting islam's inherent violent nature and its express desire to conquer and control the world?

Answering these two questions should help intellectually honest and rational humans, regardless of their faith, assess the cost vs benefit of islam. The real question is whether or not the world would be better off if there never was islam. Is that a world worth pursuing? Ultimately, given islam's nature, we have an "either/or" question unless islam reforms and conforms to the 21st century and beyond.

17 posted on 07/04/2007 4:55:30 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: GBA

Mr. Pipes and the rest of us have been safe for the last six years, thanks Mr. President and our Men and Women in uniform. Name calling and insults by heads of state is childish,an example is Chavez.


18 posted on 07/04/2007 5:10:14 AM PDT by Maumee (wt)
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To: goldstategop
I thought Karen Hughes had more perspicacity. Looks like she has finally been co-opted by globalist naifs like GWB in regards to Islam.

Leni

19 posted on 07/04/2007 5:26:32 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: goldstategop
George Bush: Shoeless and clueless:

"This self-appointed vanguard presumes to speak for Muslims. They do not.”
~George Bush~
(Of Islamic terrorists)

No??? George Bush does???

You know that watching prissy, self-deluding Western leaders pirouette around the truth with their little fingers sticking out makes jihadis double over with laughter!

20 posted on 07/04/2007 5:39:09 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Ignore the will of the people at your peril, Political "Aristocrats"!)
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To: MinuteGal

Maybe we were fooled by her too.


21 posted on 07/04/2007 6:33:21 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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To: Darkwolf377

Exactly, he is the only PRESIDIENT who is kicking the crap out of the evil that will never go away.


22 posted on 07/04/2007 6:35:20 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: MinuteGal
Looks like she has finally been co-opted by globalist naifs like GWB in regards to Islam.

Since 2005, to be exact.

23 posted on 07/04/2007 6:45:32 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: goldstategop

More proof that GW is a politically correct liberal who got elected with conservative support.


24 posted on 07/04/2007 6:50:00 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Travis McGee; Seadog Bytes; nicmarlo


25 posted on 07/04/2007 7:07:14 AM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: browardchad
Great catch and link.

I can just feel the ooze of compassionate globalism which appears to have been contagious in the current administration despite its known toxicity.

Leni

26 posted on 07/04/2007 7:07:45 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !)
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To: goldstategop
Almost 30 years after Islamists first attacked Americans

Islamists first attacked Americans when the Barbary Pirates attacked our merchant ships.

27 posted on 07/04/2007 7:13:34 AM PDT by paltz
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To: goldstategop

The road to dhimmitude.


28 posted on 07/04/2007 7:32:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: goldstategop
Muslims should be REQUIRED to forswear Islamism and accept OUR values

Perhaps you mean to say forswear terrorism because this country is not about to deny people the right to worship any particular religion including islam.

29 posted on 07/04/2007 10:47:42 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

“this country is not about to deny people the right to worship any particular religion including islam”

More’s the pity. Islam has been at war with civilization since Satan created it, and our failure to recognize that may spell our doom.


30 posted on 07/04/2007 1:42:23 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: devolve

Good post devolve!


31 posted on 07/04/2007 2:38:11 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

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Islam is not a religion

It an insane cult invented by a sub-human butcher

Islam will never reform or moderate

Islam only grows like a malignant cancer

Sooner or later it will be cut out and destroyed


32 posted on 07/04/2007 3:30:34 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve

Yes, I know.


33 posted on 07/04/2007 3:33:12 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_))
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To: devolve; potlatch
Even Charles Manson and Charlie's Devils didn't decapitate infidels for the greater glory of their "god"--they just did it because they took delight in evil deeds.

Per Melanie Phillips and Bruce Bawer et al, Islamists delight in the West's blaming its foreign policy for Islamoterrorism--when Islamoterrorism is an organic extension of Islamists' "theology".

When they crash planes into buildings they don't chant "U.S. out of Middle East"--they chant "Allahu akbar".

Still waiting for the renunciation of Islamoterrorism and Islamoterrorists by "moderate Muslims"--but hearing only the buzz of cicadas doing their seven-year sound check.

34 posted on 07/04/2007 8:29:04 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: devolve

Bump to the tippy top!

GOOD post!


35 posted on 07/04/2007 10:03:12 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; gonzo; Grampa Dave

36 posted on 07/04/2007 10:05:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: plain talk
Islamism is not totally synonymous with Islam, IMHO!
37 posted on 07/04/2007 10:38:49 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: PhilDragoo
We're still waiting, Phil.

A massive Air-Assault on Irans' Nuclear Facilities is sorely needed.

A side benefit of such an assault would be that Saudi-Arabia would no longer be able to operate behind surrogate Countries with their funding of terrorism.

That would be interesting to see ................. FRegards

38 posted on 07/05/2007 11:06:35 AM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve

Nice graphic Phil.


39 posted on 07/05/2007 3:50:53 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch


I  TOLD  YOU  NOT  TO  LOOK  AT  ME!




40 posted on 07/05/2007 5:15:03 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve
Gads, maybe that's why I've been feeling so bad, lol!

What did I miss, are you just reviving her old 'quote' or did something happen?

She made Rush's smoke and twinkle disappear though!

Strangely I am working with that exact head cutout of HIllary right now!!

only the start of m in me is showing devolve

41 posted on 07/05/2007 5:22:50 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

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Hillary was always screaming at FBI & Secret Service agents and White House staff not to look at her

This is a mentally challenged person

1000x750 - I-M composite & color-removal of BG images

I saw that Hillary .jpg on a thread earlier and used the Rush .gif and enlarged both of them

I used too large a font size

7 + b

6 + b would have been OK


42 posted on 07/05/2007 5:46:06 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve

The main graphics are centered and showing so it’s fine.

Yeah I knew she didn’t like to be ‘looked at’ and now she is getting ‘larger’ and harder to avoid, lol.


43 posted on 07/05/2007 5:49:49 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_))
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To: Darkwolf377

“President Bush did exactly what he should do—give lip service. Meanwhile, overseas, he continues to support our bombing and killing Islamofascists.
Actions, not words, tell the tale.”

You know, that’s what it looks like with the labour leadership in the UK.


44 posted on 07/12/2007 12:32:39 PM PDT by Mac1
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