Skip to comments.Fed up with war, some won't pay taxes
Posted on 07/04/2007 1:04:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Fed up with war, some won't pay taxes
By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN, Associated Press Writer 43 minutes ago
When the United States invaded Iraq more than four years ago, war opponent David Gross asked his bosses for a radical pay cut, enough so he wouldn't have to pay taxes to support the war.
"I was having a hard time looking at myself in the mirror," Gross said. "I knew the bombs falling were in part paid with my tax dollars. I had to actually do something concrete to remove my complicity."
The San Francisco technical writer was making close to $100,000 a year. He didn't know exactly how big of a pay cut he would need to fall below the federal tax threshold, but later figured out he would have to make less than minimum wage.
In any event, his employer turned him down and he quit. Gross, 38, now works on a contract basis, and last year he refused to pay self-employment taxes.
War tax resistance, popularized by Henry David Thoreau in the 19th century and by singer Joan Baez and others during the Vietnam War, is gaining renewed interest among peace activists upset over the Iraq war.
"Clearly this year we definitely had more people calling, sending e-mails about how they decided to start resisting," said Ruth Benn, coordinator of the National War Tax Resistance Coordinating Committee in New York.
Based on the committee's mailing list and reports from numerous groups it works with around the country, Benn estimates 8,000 to 10,000 Americans refuse to pay some or all of their federal taxes over war objections.
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i wonder hust how quick they would start paying those taxes if the terrorist struck close to them?
How about moving to France like you eggheads were promising to do when Bush was elected in 2000 and 2004?
“The San Francisco technical writer was making close to $100,000 a year. He didn’t know exactly how big of a pay cut he would need to fall below the federal tax threshold, but later figured out he would have to make less than minimum wage. In any event, his employer turned him down and he quit. Gross, 38, now works on a contract basis, and last year he refused to pay self-employment taxes.”
Good. Another six-figure job opening for a patriotic, right-thinking conservative.
Dumb Bastard. Can I use the same argument, “Fed up with bloated governemnt spending, VP will not pay taxes”
Now wait a sec. If I don’t pay taxes because I disagree with everything Congress is doing I get my butt thrown in jail. How the hell is this legal?
but, about that tagline: I think it's more accurately translated "wrinkled dog day."
Hmmmmm....tax refuseniks. That would be an odd meeting—you’d have representatives of both the far left and far right present.
I wish I could stop funding the DNC propaganda machine...PBS/NPR
If your convicted of not paying taxes. That means you cant vote right?
Typical liberal idiot. He doesn’t pay self-employment (aka Social Security) taxes, meaning he really doesn’t support SSI and welfare payments. War will keep going on, whether he “supports” it or not. They’ll charge it on his “national credit card of the future”...
I would hate to read the manuals this technical writer writes.
Well, with all this publicity the pitbulls of the IRS can’t be too far behind.
Fine, more leftist socialists in jail for tax evasion. Screw these people.
What a putz
Your motives for not paying taxes are completely irrelevant. The act itself is what will land you in prison. PERIOD. As so many of these “tax protestor” morons have found out.
Translation via LIBERAL-SPEAK truth enhancers:
“When the United States invaded Iraq more than four years ago, war opponent David Gross///was so verbal about his opposition to the war (and his BDS in general) that he was FIRED! Now he works as a contractor and pays his taxes, but tells liberal writers that he refuses to pay for a war he disagrees with.
Estimates are that 8000 to 10,000 liberals make grandiose claim they are not paying taxes to other liberals...but fear prison, so they always pay taxes on time and in secret.
Conclusion, what liberals say and what they do are two different things. Liberals LIE all the time!
Fed up with socialism, some won’t pay taxes.
Fed up with Unconstitutional Federal regulation, some won’t pay taxes.
Fed up with corrupt, insincere enforcement of border security, some won’t pay taxes.
Taxation forces you to pay for that which you abhor. So why does the Left want to increase taxes?
“Fine, more leftist socialists in jail for tax evasion. Screw these people.”
Hope it becomes a mass movement for them. More jobs for the prison industry.
They’d simply say “we deserve what happened.’
Commie ‘RATS are always looking for some excuse to NOT pay taxes (their “fair share”). They ALWAYS want someone else to do it. I guess the war against the Islamofascists is as good an excuse as any.
I would bet that 90% of the people that want to avoid taxes out of spite for the war in Iraq are already among the 50% of Americans that pay little or no income tax. Perhaps they can be coaxed into protesting by giving up their “earned” income credit!
Good for them, now let’s have the IRS Storm Troopers break down their doors, shoot to kill if they resist and sell their property to recoop unpaid taxes.
That's OK - if you're a liberal, an illegal alien will be appointed (through motor voter) to vote in your place.
Or a corpse, a cartoon, a dog, or a cat.
Since The Democrat State of San Francisco is no longer a part of the United States why are they paying taxes anyway and why are we sending tax dollars there to keep them up?
...And then, to top it off, let's his name and circumstances get splashed all over the national news.
Hope it becomes a mass movement for them. More jobs for the prison industry.
And the bright side is, a lot of them would then get what they secretly want. It just will not be from the IRS, it will be from their cellmate.
Great point. I agree. And why’s he so upset that his tax money is spent on bombs that will kill terrorists that could’ve potentially attacked this country again? There are bigger wastes of tax money, such as the things you named. I’d add public school funding to that list.
“Fed up with war, some won’t pay taxes”
“Some” will be going to jail.
It'd be a regular Kook-A-Palooza!
Yep, it’s a little wordplay that doesn’t quite work literally.
You all do know that there is an IRS tip line where you can report someone like this leftist, and then also collect a portion of the taxes as your reward? Maybe FR should file that claim and use the money to start off one of the quarterly Freep-A-Thons.
This guy is unbelievable. There are a lot of things that the government spends money on that I don’t agree with. Yet I’m still compelled to pay taxes. He thinks he has some “moral high ground” I’m sure in that he opposes the war.
Why is it ok to say things like global warming or tax resistance to war funding are moral issues, but things like preserving marriage or abortion issues are not to be viewed as moral issues by the criteria set by liberals?
Hey, Gross, the Self-employment tax you refuse to pay goes for Social Security, that sacred cow you libs all love.
Of course, we conservatives all know that all taxes paid to the Feds are fungible, BUT, since most libs are into self-delusion, Mr. Gross can tell himself his particular taxes only go to welfare or The Teacher’s Union, or somesuch liberal claptrap. Maybe that would make him feel better.
Hopefully, being spotlighted in this article will bring the IRS down on his a$$.
That guy is really dumb with his 100k a year he could of used alot of that money to support his liberal lobbying groups. These people are stupid.
Seems fair to me. Everyone can pay taxes to support only the programs they want. I figure this concept would cut my tax bill by about 90%.
Some how I doubt that this genious of an idea ever entered his drug burned out mind when we started bombing the heck out of Bosnia during the Klinton administration.
$100K per year in San Fran Sicko... that’s less than the “living wage” isn’t it?
Good point. How much of the budget goes for national defense and how much of that goes to the war? I bet the total is much smaller than the amount of money that goes towards entitlements..
THROW HIM IN JAIL!
“Peace activists are considering a mass tax resistance campaign next April to step up pressure to end the war in Iraq, Benn said.” I hope that they do—nothing pisses off liberal democrats in congress more than not getting their taxes....they will go after these tax resisters...
Hows about we all quit paying taxes in protest against welfare.
Can they start secession hearing SOON and just move out of the U.S.?
No doubt. Especially considering that most of the money spent "on the war" is really the money that have been cut from military budget and have not been spent during Clinton years due to "peace dividend" after dissolution of Soviet Union, and in reality are now spent on the routine maintenance, and production of new equipment and new weapons that have been in research stage but had no funding. That was one of the Rumsfeld's priorities - development and production of new technology, along with reorienting military to adapt to the new kind of asymmetric war, i.e. support for special ops and intelligence ops, not supporting less effective old and expensive Army systems. No wonder some old Army cadre didn't like this as much and fought for old systems in budget allocations.
Bush's choices of JCOS + VJCOS of Air Force + Marine, Marine + Navy, Navy + Marine instead of Army were not accidental. We already are or soon will be seeing the deployment of 21st century technology designed against asymmetrical warfare, lethal and non-lethal - like lasers, AI robotics, stink bullets, disable-non-kill explosives etc.