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Evolution as a scientific principle has been seriously challenged
Stabroke News ^ | July 4th, 2007 | Roger Williams

Posted on 07/04/2007 5:43:27 PM PDT by balch3

Dear Editor,

Reading Kowlessar Misir's letter captioned "Science and Religion are mutually exclusive: belief is a matter of faith!" (07.06.30) is a tortuous journey. Throughout the letter, one senses the difficulty in conceptualizing the big picture, and also a desperate search for meaning. An indication of Misir's dilemma is the fact that, in the tight space of a single page, he asked 21 questions rather than exercise diligence in rationalizing their answers. The reason for this, sadly, is found in the very last line of his effort as he quotes Miller on Darwin, denying the existence of a soul. Could this intellectual panic be about Misir's infatuation with atheism and evolution? He is now engaged in the ultimate deception, making a case for a "God of diversity" while at the same time denying His (God's) existence. Remember Psalm 14:1 …

The available "scientific" evidence will add to his misery. He should recognize at once that it takes more faith to believe in evolution, Darwin and atheism than to believe in Jesus Christ!

In any belief system, it surely is a comfort to find that the "scientific" (however defined) basis upon which that system rests acts itself out with the reassuring consistency or probability of a "law". Likewise, it must surely portend disaster and crisis when the system has to be held up with the bandages of deception and denial. Dr. Hugh Ross (Reasons To Believe) adopts a view that is completely opposite to Misir's: "… science and faith are, and always will be, allies, not enemies. ... since (for) the same God who "authored" the universe also inspired the writings of the Bible, a consistent message will come through both channels. In other words, the facts of nature will never contradict the words of the Bible when both are properly interpreted." To believe any less of any belief system would be self-deluding indeed. Misir is fundamentally deficient in advocating that "These two concepts are mutually exclusive and there is never any convergence". He denies his own system, whatever that is, since he maintains that science cannot uphold it.

We should turn to Marilyn Adamson (Is there a God?) for a brief rebuttal of Misir's evolutionary concept that the "… world is a complex heterogeneous system and that evolved from a complex heterogeneous system". This idea of Misir's sounds impressive indeed until one carries the process to its absurdly infinite iteration. One must finally make a decision on where the first "complex" heterogeneous system came from. Complexity, by its very definition is ordered not chaotic, is multi-faceted, and reflects intelligence. Adamson offers six simple but compelling lower-order observations for the existence of the God of the Bible, and it is this level of abstraction in reasoning that Misir must aim at, rather than rhetorical thrust and parry. He may want, for example, to rationalize his concern with the validity of "philosophies that predate the common Biblical era" against the Christian position that the "Biblical era" begins, well, at the "beginning itself" per Genesis 1:1.

I sense that the most meaningful insight into Adamson's foresight is in her fifth point. Here, she maintains that "We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him." Misir is no different from billions of Christians in this regard, and here's the proof: after vowing to address "God" in a later treatment in as early as the second paragraph, he almost unconsciously refers to "God" no less than 15 times in the paragraphs thereafter. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob comforts him, and us, with the soothing words of Jeremiah 29:11-14. Misir has thereby found his answer as to why God gave him the "ability to intellectualize". To choose to seek God from a wide range of intellectual distractions is worship indeed, this with a peace that passes all understanding.

But I also sense that it is the higher-order arguments regarding Biblical creation/ evolution that Misir's attention is really focused on, since he says in concluding: "Scientific thought has provided the necessary tools of investigation that yielded knowledge and information, enabling us to make informed statements on the development of humankind." He however cites none of them, and I admire his caution, because evolution as a scientific principle has been all but disproved. A formidable body of evidence already exists in such works as Icons of Evolution: Science or Myth? by Jonathan Wells (Regnery Publishing, Inc, 2000. 338 pages) and Science & Christianity: Four Views (InterVarsity Press, 2000. 276 pages) http://www.reasons. org/resources/fff/2001issue05/index.shtml# book_reviews. There are others.

Wells, for one, carefully documents his thesis from the work of evolutionary biologists, explaining that the "icons" of evolution-considered to be the best evidence for evolution-are nothing more than scientific myths, in most cases.

The lack of experimental and observational support for evolution's so-called best evidence comes not from recent scientific advances, in most instances, but from long-acknowledged mainstream scientific literature. This lack of support prompts Wells to repeatedly question why textbooks consistently present these "icons" as evidence for evolution when evolutionary biologists understand that these "icons" are equivocal at best in their support for evolution.

He believes that the answer to this question stems from a deliberate effort by Darwinian ideologues to suppress scientific truth out of concern that without these widely known "icons" of evolution, public support for evolution will wane.

The evolutionary "icons" addressed by Wells include: 1) the Miller-Urey experiment; 2) the evolutionary "Tree of Life"; 3) the homology of vertebrate limbs; 4) Haeckel's drawings of vertebrate embryos; 5) Archaeopteryx as the missing link connecting birds to reptiles; 6) the peppered moth story; 7) beak evolution and speciation among Darwin's finches; 8) the laboratory-directed evolution of four-winged fruit flies; 9) equine evolution; and 10) human evolution.

In Misir's world of evolution and atheism, the scientific tools have been applied, and the concepts found wanting. Now what?

We conclude that it takes more "faith" to believe in a lie called "Darwinian evolution", and the tragedy of atheism, than to believe in Jesus Christ! Now, we should examine how the scientific tools validate intelligent design and, by inference, creation!

Yours faithfully,

Roger Williams


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incicively argued.
1 posted on 07/04/2007 5:43:31 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Coyoteman

2 posted on 07/04/2007 5:47:57 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Pray for the deliberately ignorant)
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To: balch3
Williams' thesis: evolution is false, because some creationist named Wells says it is, and that settles that.

How can the scientific community ever hope to withstand such a terrible attack?

3 posted on 07/04/2007 5:48:28 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

DATELINE: William Jennings Bryan announces he
is running for the 2008 Presidential election.


4 posted on 07/04/2007 5:53:27 PM PDT by maxsand
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To: balch3

read later


5 posted on 07/04/2007 5:55:54 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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The evolutionary "icons" addressed by Wells include: 1) the Miller-Urey experiment; 2) the evolutionary "Tree of Life"; 3) the homology of vertebrate limbs; 4) Haeckel's drawings of vertebrate embryos; 5) Archaeopteryx as the missing link connecting birds to reptiles; 6) the peppered moth story; 7) beak evolution and speciation among Darwin's finches; 8) the laboratory-directed evolution of four-winged fruit flies; 9) equine evolution; and 10) human evolution.

Nothing to see here. Move along!

These ten evolutionary "icons" have been the subject of enough misrepresentations, falsifications, quote mines, and outright lies by creationists to fill the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Short rebuttals for all of these "icons" (and a few hundred others) are found in the Index of Creationist Claims.

6 posted on 07/04/2007 5:59:45 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: balch3
Evolution to higher organisms by “random mutation” is absolutely impossible. We have learned so much more about the nuts and bolts of genetics in the last 15 or so years, that only a rapid atheist can continue to believe that life is a mere chance event! For you die-hard Darwinists, read Michael Behe’s latest book: “The Edge of Evolution.” He’s a biochemist, and the book gets pretty technical at times, but if you want to see an unglossed analysis of the facts behind genetic mutation, read it!
7 posted on 07/04/2007 6:00:02 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Common Descent, Yes. Random Chance, NO WAY!!!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

“rapid” means “Rabid”


8 posted on 07/04/2007 6:02:15 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Common Descent, Yes. Random Chance, NO WAY!!!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
"Evolution to higher organisms by “random mutation” is absolutely impossible....read Michael Behe’s latest book"

Intelligent Design accepts macroevolution. In other words ID accepts that humans and chimps are descended from a common ancestor.

Id that what you believe?
9 posted on 07/04/2007 6:04:22 PM PDT by ndt
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To: balch3
Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics and cannot be proved using the scientific method. I have my own belief system that has been developed over years.
10 posted on 07/04/2007 6:05:18 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: mountainlyons
"Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics"

The earth is not a closed system.
11 posted on 07/04/2007 6:06:24 PM PDT by ndt
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
For you die-hard Darwinists, read Michael Behe’s latest book: “The Edge of Evolution.” He’s a biochemist, and the book gets pretty technical at times, but if you want to see an unglossed analysis of the facts behind genetic mutation, read it!

His book has been panned pretty seriously by scientists:

Miller drubs Behe in Nature.

Behe's Dreadful New Book: A Review of "The Edge of Evolution".

12 posted on 07/04/2007 6:06:46 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: maxsand
YESSSS! Finally a "true conservative!" What took him so FREAKING long?

/:-)
13 posted on 07/04/2007 6:09:06 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: balch3; Dog Gone; Dark Wing
And for irrefutable proof that evolution is wrong, send just $20 in small unmarked bills to:

Carlo Ponzi
P.O. Box 666
So Long Sucker, Oklahoma

An autographed statuette of HIM will be included with every purchase.

14 posted on 07/04/2007 6:13:52 PM PDT by Thud
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To: ndt

Yeah, but not by random chance.


15 posted on 07/04/2007 6:17:48 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Common Descent, Yes. Random Chance, NO WAY!!!)
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To: Coyoteman

Read it for yourself!


16 posted on 07/04/2007 6:18:27 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Common Descent, Yes. Random Chance, NO WAY!!!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

So what specific mechanism do you propose replaces random mutation to introduce variation.


17 posted on 07/04/2007 6:21:25 PM PDT by ndt
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To: Coyoteman
Behe isn't widely respected like Dawkins.


18 posted on 07/04/2007 6:26:06 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God! Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: ndt
A theory can be proven false/impossible without having a ready-made replacement. However, I believe there are some still undiscovered natural laws that govern the process. Some may call them the hands of God, so what? To my mind, every natural law is in accordance with God’s will.
19 posted on 07/04/2007 6:30:40 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Common Descent, Yes. Random Chance, NO WAY!!!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
"A theory can be proven false/impossible without having a ready-made replacement."

So what specific experiment or observation do you feel falsifies The ToE.
20 posted on 07/04/2007 6:33:53 PM PDT by ndt
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