Posted on 07/08/2007 12:59:06 PM PDT by bnelson44
Absolutely spot on!
Well, let’s see what actually is happening on the ground today,
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=4&Itemid=21
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Qarghuli village residents lead troops to caches
Sunday, 08 July 2007 3-1 Cav. finds four weapons caches, detains five
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Paratroopers find weapons cache
Sunday, 08 July 2007 MND-B patrol struck by explosively-formed penetrator
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Two Task Force Soldiers killed in IED attack
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Iraqi Army Forces detain one extremist leader, four others in operation near Kirkuk
Sunday, 08 July 2007 10 suspected VBIED network operatives detained
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Soldiers uncover cache in Hor Al Bosh mosque following attack
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Task Force Lightning Soldiers attacked
Sunday, 08 July 2007 13th MEU finds more than 17 metric tons of explosives
Sunday, 08 July 2007 IA, IP discover IED factory near Mosul
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Diyala deputy governor tours Baqouba
Sunday, 08 July 2007 Seven insurgents suspected of killing Coalition Forces captured
Link to read full articles;
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=4&Itemid=21
Conclusion, surge is winning alot of battles.
Why would we take all this ground, only to abandon it to the enemy?
Many Troops are doing alot of hard work to clear hostile forces out of Iraq, so Iraqi’s can eventually handle the rest, do I have to draw Senators a picture.
Senators need to talk to the President in private if they have a better idea.
I do agree, but this war is being fought on a political level, and it has been for a while. However, if there is no serious change in Iraq by election time, it will not be favorable for republicans.
You want to pull out of something, pull out of Bosnia. We still have to help the Iraqi people handle bad situations. When the Iraqi people can handle this on their own it will be time to come home.
See the tag - no backbone in the GOP.
If Republicans fight back and convince the people that this is Americas war, not a Republican war. Show how many of the commies on the left who supported the war and now want to pull out. Show the people that there is cowards in our midst. Tough times don't last, tough people do.
We need to put this thing into perspective too:
Look, in the first twenty one days on the Island of Iwo Jima, we averaged a thousand losses a day. We have been in Iraq for four years and we lost 3,500 Troops. Well, that is the fourth day on Iwo. We lost almost 500,000 in the four years of WWII. 52,000 in Two years of Korea. The bloodiest day in our history saw 22,000 casualties in four hours not four years. Grow a spine and pick up a weapon and stand a post, boy.
Y'all wanna turn yeller and run now. I think you have been brainwashed by the media and some liberal demorats who are spewing commie propaganda.
Look, the Al Anbar Province is gittin sick and tired of Al Qeada. They are turning on them.
Go look at why this is happening. This is a battle of resolve and our enemy has more then some folks in Congress. Those people with no spine are a National Security risk. We must stand with our friends until the end. As they say, ‘you broke it, you own it’.
Eventually, that is almost certain. But by the time it does, it may be too late and/or the public may no longer be in any mood to hear it (their little minds may be closed.)
There's a fate worse than having the President's veto of bad law overriden: Having a President who not won't veto such laws, but actually sponsors them!
Think about it.
“not won’t” => “not only won’t”
I tell you where it went. The administration fought a war like LBJ instead of like General Sherman. They let the MSM/Dims/liberal moonbats seize the debate, and the administration did a pathetic job of making its case and refuting the Left's lies.
Nobody's asking for an immediate pullout but the public isn't going to go for a long-term, nation-building exercise in futility either. There was a time when Republicans ended wars, not prolonged them.
It's axiomatic. The further one is from the fight, the surer one is on how to fight it.
Gotta a newsflash for you. Take the war to Iran, and you create the next anti-war counterculture movement, because despite what anyone wants to believe, we really are stretched to the limit, and the kind of force you would need to invade Iran, while meeting all other committments, requires conscription.
And if not? Perhaps it is too soon to throw in the towel just yet, but that time draws close enough that such a scenario deserves some contemplation: How to implement it, how to minimize the negative consequences, and how to avoid getting (unjustly) blamed for those consequences.
It's time to prepare for the eventuality that what we hope for will not come to pass.
Come September if not before, at least half of those 12 in the Senate will have come out against this fiasco. 60 in the House? 30 if not more by end of August. You see, these representatives have to be elected come next year. And not many people, far from a majority in many districts, are going to support a candidate whose only line is 'stay the course'.
Of course this also means in the Presidential debate in September, at least one if not two will start to agree with Rep. Paul's recommendations (at least on foreign policy, they're still big government otherwise). Conservatives are tired of Republicans running roughshod over conservative principles. It's past time to rein in your 'friends' Johnnie. What will probably be upsetting to most is when right said Freddie realizes he doesn't have a chance to get elected by continued calls for police actions around the world and changes his tune
HEAR HEAR!!
We must put an end to this and moonbats too!!
True and well said. But the next President and Congress will be controlled by Democrats anyway, unless the news from Iraq gets a lot better quickly, or the Republicans gracefully abandon their support for the Iraq project. That's reality, and we have to deal with it. The consequences of having the US government totally under the control of the Moonbats are just too dire. And our opportunities at the Supreme Court are just too important.
“I think when Bush said, “I believe in the heart of every human being is the desire to be free”, that this sentiment has been proven wrong. I think muslims want to follow their radical ideology to either our destruction or their destruction. Our nations inability to understand this one fact could be the undoing of the west. Great Britain, France, GErmany will someday in the next 20-30 years me dominated by islamofascists. It is past time to stop pussyfooting. America (Washinton leadership) does not have the resolve or desire to see things as they are”
Good thinking and I agree. Only hope that FDT will be able to bring about an America saving solution, such as get us away from MidEast oil. Once that key is acheived we can let the SOBs do unto brother muslims as they see fit.
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