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Ancient Culture Prompts Worry For Arid Southwest
NPR ^ | 7-10-2007 | Richard Harris

Posted on 07/11/2007 2:11:08 PM PDT by blam

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To: randog
***Cornucopia explains that lack of water for drinking and for growing crops may have led them away. Not enough growth of trees failed to keep the Anasazi warm with firewood. **

Twenty five years drought according to an old National Geographic magazine.

The law of diminishing returns shows they ate each other till no one was left to eat the last one who fell victim to a coyote. ;-D

21 posted on 07/11/2007 2:57:29 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: randog

Damn! Another broadside against the Phoenix housing market!


22 posted on 07/11/2007 3:01:12 PM PDT by Rightone
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To: PeterFinn
had more to do with the Aztecs eating them.

Or killing them in war. There are far more cases of wars wiping out people than their neighbors over-eating them. But academia doesn't like to consider that we evolved on the battlefield. They strongly prefer the idea we came from hippie communes.

23 posted on 07/11/2007 3:40:02 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: blam
perhaps, it was for emotional or psychic reasons, or even because of a series of dreams.

Say's it all, I think.


24 posted on 07/11/2007 4:00:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: blam

Oddly, there has been no DNA comparison between Zunis and the Japanese.


25 posted on 07/11/2007 4:34:48 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: blam

The southwest never recovered and is still a desert. The fact cities presently exist there is because of massive efforts to divert water from everywhere it can be found.

Growth can not be sustained because there is inadequate water.


26 posted on 07/11/2007 4:38:23 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: Red Badger

They are still there. Oraibi, the oldest continuously occupied place in America is on the Hopi Mesa. The Hopi are the Anasazi.

A trip and overnite stay in Chaco should be on everyone’s list as should be a trip to the Hopi Mesas.


27 posted on 07/11/2007 4:44:32 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: randog
to quote Sam Kinison

See this... this is Saaaaaaannnnnnnndddddddd. Nothing grows in Saaaannnnnndddddd. YOU LIVE IN A F-ING DESERT!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

28 posted on 07/11/2007 4:45:31 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Red Badger

Navajo are Alaskans


29 posted on 07/11/2007 4:45:34 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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Thanks Blam. Did you post anything about the Olmec/Shang thing?

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30 posted on 07/11/2007 10:19:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, July 10, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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"Did you post anything about the Olmec/Shang thing?

This?

The Olmecs And Shang

31 posted on 07/12/2007 3:27:42 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: randog

Once upon a time there was a Dust Bowl. Oklahomans, be worried, be very worried.


32 posted on 07/12/2007 3:35:22 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Red Badger

“...The Anasazi probably just moved on to better pastures and became some other tribe which we do know, like Navajo or Apaches..........”

Hopi, Zuni, and a couple of others, but not Navajo or Apache.

The Navajo migrated down from what is now Alberta, in the 1300’s....long after the Anasazi had vanished.

By the way, “Anasazi” is a Navajo word, and the Hopi, who consider themselves descendants of the “Anasazi”, don’t like the word, as it translates into something like “enemy people”. They consider “Anasazi” to be an insult.


33 posted on 07/12/2007 4:33:46 AM PDT by Renfield
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“I have often imagined the streets of Tucson or Phoenix as abandoned, and it’s a bit scary,” she says. “You think that the place that’s the center of your region, the biggest city around, could never crumble and fall, and here it has.”

I live in Phoenix.

Our water comes from huge aquifers, which the Chaco dwellers never built. Some comes from the Colorado.

The parallels are... minimal.


34 posted on 07/12/2007 7:38:55 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
Chaco is a fascinating place to visit, but you come away with more questions than answers.

BTW, our tent was blown down and ripped by a violent thunderstorm in the middle of the drought.

35 posted on 07/12/2007 10:29:53 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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Well, maybe you were camped on some ancient sacred gravesite. ;’)


36 posted on 07/13/2007 9:37:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, July 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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