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Fenty nears gun-appeal decision
The Washington Times ^ | Jul 11, 2007 | David C. Lipscomb

Posted on 07/11/2007 2:31:55 PM PDT by neverdem

D.C. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty yesterday said he is close to a decision on whether city officials will appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court a federal court ruling that would repeal the District's 30-year-old handgun ban.

"We're planning to make that announcement within the next week," Mr. Fenty said yesterday. "We're still exploring all of our options."

The Supreme Court appeal must be filed within 90 days of May 8, the date a federal appeals panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit declined to reconsider its earlier ruling in the case.

That gives Fenty administration officials roughly until the end of the first week in August to file the appeal.

On March 9, a three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 to reverse a lower-court decision against six D.C. residents who sued to keep their guns for self-defense.

The ruling repealed much of the city's ban on handguns, but the ban has remained intact through the appeals process.

Metropolitan Police spokeswoman Traci Hughes said if the mayor does not appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court and the D.C. Council does not enact any legislation restricting the sale or use of handguns, residents can begin legally purchasing guns after the appeal period expires.

If the mayor does not appeal the ruling, the ban will expire while the council is in recess, which could delay the introduction of new legislation regulating the sale and use of handguns.

Mr. Fenty, a Democrat, made the remarks after an appearance on Capitol Hill with a handful of other big-city mayors for an initiative called Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

Mr. Fenty was among a dozen or so other mayors from across the country to speak out against the so-called "Tiahrt Amendment" — named for its sponsor, Rep. Todd Tiahrt,...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; fenty; mayors; parker; tiahrt
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1 posted on 07/11/2007 2:31:56 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Short version: no appeal and they’re trying to find a way to say so and not catch hell from the psychotic Left.


2 posted on 07/11/2007 2:33:53 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Short version: no appeal and they’re trying to find a way to say so and not catch hell from the psychotic Left.

That would be a shame. I want the SCOTUS to rule on this one.
3 posted on 07/11/2007 2:39:58 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: pabianice
Short version: no appeal and they’re trying to find a way to say so and not catch hell from the psychotic Left.

I don't know. Both sides are scared and justifiably so. If they don't appeal, folks in Washington D.C. will have greater rights than folks in other places. I don't see how that stands. SCOTUS can duck it for only so long. And Parker is about as good as it gets.

4 posted on 07/11/2007 2:44:49 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

How would this mayor defend “no sovereign individual rights” for the 2nd, while the entire US Constitution is all about individual rights. He’d need to twist into a pretzel while claiming he’s a piece of straight rope.

This rat is cornered, trapped and the fat lady is singing the requiem.


5 posted on 07/11/2007 2:57:19 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: neverdem

Appeal it you gutless commie!

The SCOTUS will kick you down the storm drain of History.

Or we will.


6 posted on 07/11/2007 3:00:24 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (What would Beowulf do?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

No,just let the time run out on the appeal process.Then D.C. residents can effectively demonstrate the fallacy of the restrictive gun laws.I want one more original construction judge on the Supreme Court before they rule on this one.


7 posted on 07/11/2007 3:13:04 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

“Appeal it...”

As an ocassional resident in the D of Criminals, I have to say I’d rather take the decision and let it lie...

the SC is not a reliable protector of rights and is way too likely to make some chicken-scratch distinction to narrow freedoms.

Remember, all the Supremes live in the area and many are inclined to be NIMBYism and politically correct outcomes over Constitutional principle (sadly even Scalia in his anti-federalist sellout on the ‘medical marijuana’ issue—but then again he was angling for Chief Justice at the time, oh well).

Take the money and run, I say...


8 posted on 07/11/2007 3:21:52 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (The booze made me do it!)
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To: Natchez Hawk; hoosierham

Let them rule their tonsils out.

Thbey either rule with us, and what’s right,

or we fix things.


9 posted on 07/11/2007 3:25:52 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (What would Beowulf do?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Natchez Hawk; hoosierham; sergeantdave; pabianice; Filo
From Parker:

We also note that at least three current members (and one former member) of the Supreme Court have read "bear Arms" in the Second Amendment to have meaning beyond mere soldiering: "Surely a most familiar meaning [of 'carries a firearm'] is, as the Constitution's Second Amendment ('keepand bear Arms') and Black's Law Dictionary . . . indicate: 'wear, bear, or carry . . . upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose . . . of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person." Muscarello v. United States, 524 U.S. 125, 143 (1998) (Ginsburg, J., dissenting, joined by Rehnquist, C.J., Scalia, J.,and Souter, J.) (emphasis in original). Based on the foregoing, we think the operative clause includes a private meaning for"bear Arms."

I think there's room for cautious optimism, IMHO.

10 posted on 07/11/2007 4:03:27 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: sergeantdave

“D.C. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty”

That name: it sounds so...so... fenty, don’t you think?

;^)


11 posted on 07/11/2007 4:44:39 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Filo

By itself, Parker doesn’t do us much good. It says that the second amendment protects an individual right, but it doesn’t put much of a limit on government regulation of it. It says you can’t prohibit handguns. It affirms that states can regulate them, which means the gun permit schemes in New York and Massachussetts still stand. It would be nice for the Supreme Court to say that the second amendment is an individual right, as it did in U.S. v. Miller, but we need more than that. If this does get to the SC, hopefully it will be consolidated with some other cases that decide against New Jersey’s refusal to issue carry permits, and California’s stupid litany of laws.


12 posted on 07/11/2007 5:25:08 PM PDT by sig226 (Every time I hit spell check, the fishies got all messed up. 'Bye fishies . . .)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

They’ll say you don’t have the right to fix things yourself, Gillman.


13 posted on 07/11/2007 5:55:46 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: neverdem

If the appeal is filed with the SCOTUS and the Court decides to hear it, I wonder if the decision will be another 5-4 with Kennedy casting the deciding vote either way....


14 posted on 07/11/2007 7:34:12 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

See comment# 10.


15 posted on 07/11/2007 8:08:38 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: sig226

By itself, Parker doesn’t do us much good. It says that the second amendment protects an individual right, but it doesn’t put much of a limit on government regulation of it. It says you can’t prohibit handguns. It affirms that states can regulate them, which means the gun permit schemes in New York and Massachussetts still stand.


Parker holds that you can’t ban an entire class of guns, which should provide the basis to overturn state AWBs, and the 1986 Reagan (sorry, it’s true) machine gun ban.

Good legal progress is made with solid, narrow holdings like Parker. A solid brick on which to rebuild gun rights.


16 posted on 07/11/2007 8:54:19 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: sig226
sig226 said: "By itself, Parker doesn’t do us much good."

I don't agree. Practically every gun case of importance decided by the Ninth Circus Court has depended on a false reading of the Second Amendment; that no individual right exists and that the Second Amendment only protects the state's right to arm a militia.

Once the Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment does protect an individual right, then the Ninth Circuit will have to adopt a different stance; that the right is not "fundamental" and that the protection from infringement in the Second Amendment is not "an immunity of United States citizens" as described in the Fourteenth Amendment.

This will be a hard sell given the significant position of that right in the Bill of Rights and that a majority of states recognize the right of the people to keep and bear arms in their own constitutions.

17 posted on 07/11/2007 10:01:43 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: neverdem
DC Thug Adrian Fenty is just another gun grabbing Rat.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 07/12/2007 2:45:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
DC Thug Adrian Fenty is just another gun grabbing Rat.

I think we're sitting pretty, IMHO. See comments# 4 & 10.

19 posted on 07/12/2007 2:55:11 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Beelzebubba
It says that, but it leaves the ability to regulate the possession of guns to the states. It says the regulations can’t be a ban, but it doesn’t say what level of regulation is offensive. So Newark, New Jersey, for example, can continue to sit on your paperwork for two years as long as they eventually issue your permit.

New York City can continue to issue premises permits, which mean that you can have it, but not shoot it unless you go to the range during a set of specified hours on one or two days a month. And it doesn’t address the one class of firearms the second amendment was written to protect - the military styled stuff. I agree that it’s a positive step, but look at how the wording of U.S. v. Miller has been twisted in the past 70 years. In order for it to really set a limit on government power, they’ll have to consolidate it with some other issues, like an RTC case and an EBR case.

20 posted on 07/12/2007 3:53:47 AM PDT by sig226 (Every time I hit spell check, the fishies got all messed up. 'Bye fishies . . .)
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