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Is U.S. going the way of Rome? National discontent stems partly from government's control
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 7/14/07 | Star Parker

Posted on 07/14/2007 1:05:14 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

"Are We Rome?" asks a new book authored by an editor at Vanity Fair magazine. The subtitle is "The Fall of an Empire and the Fate of America."

It seems, given the dour mood of the country, that this would be a good time to market such a book. And, indeed, as I check its sales clip on Amazon, it seems to be moving at a brisk pace that must please both author and publisher.

So, is America creaking and crumbling like a latter-day Rome?

If it is, the word hasn't gotten to our financial markets. Stocks are booming, interest rates, inflation and unemployment are low, and companies are making money.

Usually this is the formula for a happy electorate. But, for some reason, not now.

According to polls, less than a third of Americans are happy with their president, barely more than a fourth are happy with their Congress, and three-quarters feel the country is on the wrong track.

A recent New York Times/CBS poll shows pessimism extending among our young people. In a survey of 17- to 29-year-olds, 70 percent said the nation is on the wrong track.

When asked if "your generation will be better off, worse off or about the same as your parents' generation," 48 percent said worse off, 25 percent said better off and 25 percent said the same.

These young people, looking for change, are helping fuel Obamaphoria. In the Times/CBS poll, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the presidential candidate about whom they expressed the most enthusiasm. They surely are an important source of his large number of low-dollar and online contributors.

But what is driving the dissatisfaction?

Certainly, there is unhappiness about the war in Iraq. We hear comparisons to Vietnam. But let's recall that the death toll in Vietnam, when the protests got most intense, was far beyond the 3,000-plus casualties we have experienced thus far in Iraq.

By the time we exited Vietnam, we had lost more than 50,000 of our soldiers.

But why would unhappiness about our engagement in Iraq cause half of younger Americans to say they will be worse off than their parents?

Here's one hypothesis about what may be affecting the general mood. People feel rattled when they feel a loss of control.

One thing Americans have done over the years is turn more and more of their lives over to others to control. This is reflected in the growth of government.

At the beginning of the last century, government took less than one dollar of every 10 produced by the nation's economy. By the 1950s, government was taking about one dollar of every four produced. Now it is taking almost a third.

In actuality, government is taking more than a third today because our accounting is not fully reflecting the huge over-commitments in Social Security and Medicare. According to a recent paper by economists from the Cato Institute and the University of Pennsylvania, we'd need a payroll tax of 14.5 percent, more than double the current tax, to cover these obligations.

Along with the growth of government, there has been a dramatic shift from local and state control to the federal government.

At the beginning of the last century, 70 percent of government spending was at the state and local level. Today, almost two-thirds of government spending is at the federal level.

All of this means two things. First, a large portion of our lives today is politicized and run inefficiently. One of the reasons our free economy works so well is that businesses change as times change. But once a government program starts, entrenched political interests make change almost impossible. Consider President Bush's aborted effort to fundamentally reform Social Security.

Second, people feel impotent as their lives are increasingly controlled by distant bureaucrats and monolithic government programs.

In the same Times/CBS poll, 45 percent of 17- to 29-year-olds said they would have less influence and 18 percent said they would have more influence than older people in picking the next president. Is this not ironic in a time of the Internet, primaries and campaign-finance reform?

So, is Rome and decline in the cards for us?

I think we'll be OK if we don't forget how we got successful and what drives failure. Our success has come from freedom and letting individuals take responsibility for their own lives. But failure comes when we lose the humility required of freedom and turn to prideful notions that we can design government programs that solve life's problems.

For guidance here, we must turn not to history but to Proverbs.

"Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall."


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To: JohnHuang2

There’s little comparison, but yes, we’re going the way of Rome. :(


21 posted on 07/14/2007 6:39:32 AM PDT by Graymatter (FRederalist)
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To: MamaTexan
YOU people confuse AMERICA with the dim Party... America will endure as long as there are Americans willing to fight and die for her... and as long as “some” keep GOD’s tenants! Those that do not are on their own... free will and such... but they will pay a heavy price for eternity.

LLS

22 posted on 07/14/2007 7:59:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Savage Beast
Exactly!! I couldn't agree with you more!! If you think the Republican Party just is NOT liberal enough,,,and isn't moving to the LEFT fast enough--there IS a Republican candidate out there for you.

If you want a more authoritarian, bullying, more intrusive, more controlling, all-powerful 'Big Brother' type of government,,,,,

headed by a pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, pro-litigation, gun-grabbing, gay rights crusading, arrogant, narcissistic LIBERAL New York lawyer,,,,

whose personal life is an absolute TRAIN WRECK (almost making Bill Clinton look like a decent family man and loving husband--if that is even possible),,,,

a LIBERAL like Rudy JulieAnnie is JUST THE MAN FOR THE JOB!!!!

23 posted on 07/14/2007 8:05:26 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Thats gonna leave a mark


24 posted on 07/14/2007 9:35:36 AM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: Dustbunny

Maybe it’s time to move the capital to ‘New Washington’ (say, built on the site of Wichita), so when the barbarians overrun (Old) Washington (whether you take that to mean the demonRATs or the Muslims), we can keep our civiliation running another thousand years or so.

(All comparisons with Rome that assume Gibbon’s false telling in which the Roman Empire ‘fell’ when the last Western Augustus was retired to a villa near Naples in 476 are useless, since they are comparisons with a false history.)


26 posted on 07/14/2007 12:56:50 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: JohnHuang2

“People feel rattled when they feel a loss of control.”

Might be for some people but not for me as I’ve never thought that I had any kind of control in our government. Now I don’t believe a damn word our government says. I figure they will lie to me every chance they get if it does them well. Good has now become evil and evil good. So “good” (evil) now is prevailing and spreading and is/has corrupting every nook and cranny of our nation. I no longer expect our government to do the right thing at all but rather to increase its own tyranny with more power and more power by decreasing the power of its citizens to serfdom serving their wants not ours. Our nation is under the control of elitists who are insane with power and will scrap and sap this country to increase it.


27 posted on 07/14/2007 5:16:23 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (In the Rise and Fall of United States I hope the Fall part is more than one chapter.)
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To: JohnHuang2

“I think we’ll be OK if we don’t forget how we got successful and what drives failure. Our success has come from freedom and letting individuals take responsibility for their own lives. But failure comes when we lose the humility required of freedom and turn to prideful notions that we can design government programs that solve life’s problems.”

I fear we are already beyond this point.To many look to the Federal Government for guidance and help in life instead of relying on their own worth.


28 posted on 07/14/2007 6:33:04 PM PDT by TazforPrez (Save your children!Get them out of govt. schools now.)
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To: MamaTexan

Yes, Americans feel helpless as (a) Govt ever grows, not matter what Party is in power; (b) elected officials, once elected, turn their backs on those who voted them in; (c) lack of statesmen, only self-absorbed politicians by and large.


29 posted on 07/15/2007 1:59:55 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: OldArmy52
Americans feel helpless as (a) Govt ever grows, not matter what Party is in power; (b) elected officials, once elected, turn their backs on those who voted them in; (c) lack of statesmen, only self-absorbed politicians by and large.

That is _exactly_ what happened with the Roman ruling class.

When the Citizens had to choose between the barbarians and their lying evil corrupt rulers they ultimately decided they just didn't care.

This is how the liberals can destroy America.


30 posted on 07/15/2007 2:14:48 AM PDT by cgbg (Hillary's mob has plans for our liberties--hanging fruit.)
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To: JohnHuang2
These young people, looking for change, are helping fuel Obamaphoria. In the Times/CBS poll, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the presidential candidate about whom they expressed the most enthusiasm. They surely are an important source of his large number of low-dollar and online contributors.

Of course our other problem is the abject failure of the public education system to train our young people to have values and common sense.

:-)
31 posted on 07/15/2007 2:20:32 AM PDT by cgbg (Hillary's mob has plans for our liberties--hanging fruit.)
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