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1 posted on 07/14/2007 1:05:16 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: SevenofNine
Jim Rome?
2 posted on 07/14/2007 1:06:44 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: JohnHuang2
By the time we exited Vietnam, we had lost more than 50,000 of our soldiers.

I've read that we COULD have lost up toi 50,000 people in the WTC if the attack happened in the mid-afternoon.

If that happened, I'm thinking the 3000 we've lost in Iraq would not be considered such a high loss, and people would feel just fine about our involvment there.

Instead, we made so much about losing 3000 on 9-11, as we should, and here we've lost another 3000, through our own action.

3 posted on 07/14/2007 1:24:05 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Bostonian, atheist, prolifer, free-speech zealot, pro-legal immigration anti-socialist dude.)
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To: JohnHuang2
One thing Americans have done over the years is turn more and more of their lives over to others to control. This is reflected in the growth of government.

It is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in princes

4 posted on 07/14/2007 3:09:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: JohnHuang2
Is U.S. going the way of Rome?

That is a question that I have asked many times.

The Decline and Fall of the USA

thanks to the Liberal/Socialist/Marxist/Progressives that are in government.

5 posted on 07/14/2007 4:07:31 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: JohnHuang2
17-29 year olds are angry because they feel guilty. They're ashamed that thier contemporaries are the tip of the spear in Iraq and Afghanistan but they can't muster the fortitude to risk everything for their country.
9 posted on 07/14/2007 4:25:36 AM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: JohnHuang2
Right on target! It astounds the rational mind that millions of Amereicans want to INCREASE the size, reach, power, and appetite of the Frankenstein's monster known as the Federal Government. This means increasing the number of burocrats who control and subjugate everyone else.

It's madness. It's choosing masters, a priveleged class, to overpower you.

Yet millions are in overdrive working for bigger and bigger government--a bigger, more powerful class of masters--a bigger army of parasites.

15 posted on 07/14/2007 5:12:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Ignore the will of the people at your peril, Political "Aristocrats"!)
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To: JohnHuang2
“Is U.S. going the way of Rome? National discontent stems partly from government’s control”

No, but we may end up fighting another Civil War... and the Conservative side will NOT be the side eventually wearing bhurkas.

LLS

16 posted on 07/14/2007 5:16:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: JohnHuang2

If we were Rome, Fallujah would be covered in salt, Osama would have been hanging from a cross in a pig skin [or everybody who didn’t flip him in would], the world would be looking at at least several centuries of peace, and the entrance to the State Department would be inscribed with “ODERINT DUM METUANT”.


18 posted on 07/14/2007 5:42:17 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: JohnHuang2
One thing Americans have done over the years is turn more and more of their lives over to others to control. This is reflected in the growth of government.

I call BS!

Americans haven't 'turned over' anything. The control that was lost was stripped from us without so much as a by-your-leave by the nannystaters.

And yes, since our country's laws and government were patterned after that of Rome, it would be logical to assume America would suffer the same fate.

19 posted on 07/14/2007 5:53:41 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Government can make NO law contrary to the law that made the government)
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To: JohnHuang2

Why would young people disillusioned with government control over our lives support Obama? This is insane logic.


20 posted on 07/14/2007 6:08:54 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: JohnHuang2

There’s little comparison, but yes, we’re going the way of Rome. :(


21 posted on 07/14/2007 6:39:32 AM PDT by Graymatter (FRederalist)
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To: JohnHuang2

“People feel rattled when they feel a loss of control.”

Might be for some people but not for me as I’ve never thought that I had any kind of control in our government. Now I don’t believe a damn word our government says. I figure they will lie to me every chance they get if it does them well. Good has now become evil and evil good. So “good” (evil) now is prevailing and spreading and is/has corrupting every nook and cranny of our nation. I no longer expect our government to do the right thing at all but rather to increase its own tyranny with more power and more power by decreasing the power of its citizens to serfdom serving their wants not ours. Our nation is under the control of elitists who are insane with power and will scrap and sap this country to increase it.


27 posted on 07/14/2007 5:16:23 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (In the Rise and Fall of United States I hope the Fall part is more than one chapter.)
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To: JohnHuang2

“I think we’ll be OK if we don’t forget how we got successful and what drives failure. Our success has come from freedom and letting individuals take responsibility for their own lives. But failure comes when we lose the humility required of freedom and turn to prideful notions that we can design government programs that solve life’s problems.”

I fear we are already beyond this point.To many look to the Federal Government for guidance and help in life instead of relying on their own worth.


28 posted on 07/14/2007 6:33:04 PM PDT by TazforPrez (Save your children!Get them out of govt. schools now.)
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To: JohnHuang2
These young people, looking for change, are helping fuel Obamaphoria. In the Times/CBS poll, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the presidential candidate about whom they expressed the most enthusiasm. They surely are an important source of his large number of low-dollar and online contributors.

Of course our other problem is the abject failure of the public education system to train our young people to have values and common sense.

:-)
31 posted on 07/15/2007 2:20:32 AM PDT by cgbg (Hillary's mob has plans for our liberties--hanging fruit.)
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