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'Why Is It Impossible To Deport Illegal Aliens, Mr. President?'
News By Us ^ | Jul 14, 07 | Citizen Conservative

Posted on 07/14/2007 4:59:33 AM PDT by GFritsch

President George W. Bush has undertaken the onerous task of converting Muslim dictatorships and theocracies in the Middle East into enlightened democracies.

The president apparently believes that America can, and should, determine the form of government that more than a billion Muslims live under.

But while our commander-in-chief is downright eager to impose American ideology on Muslims in nations thousands of miles removed from our shores, he is downright squeamish when it comes to defending America’s own borders and enforcing our immigration laws.

Most distressing is Bush’s assertion that deportation of millions of illegal aliens is “impossible.”

How in the world can it be “impossible” for the most powerful and technologically advanced nation in the world to remove criminals who have invaded our nation at time of war?

Surely the greatest hope for the civilized world in the global “war on terror” is not helpless when it comes to criminals inside its own borders? Some of who are most likely terrorists?

If America is really that impotent, Osama bin Laden and other Islamofascists will see that as great news, and a source of inspiration for continuing their Jihad on the civilized world.

Moreover, if America is unable, or unwilling, to control who enters and who stays here, victory for terrorism and world domination by Islamic extremists are all but assured.

Is that really the message you wish to convey to the world, Mr. President?

The great-unanswered question in all of this is:

Why does President Bush always act on behalf of illegal aliens, rather than America?

Why does he arrogantly and foolishly deny the truth?

Namely, illegal aliens:

* Feed at the public trough for health care, education, food, housing and other vital services to which they were not entitled.

* Overwhelm American hospitals, medical clinics, and emergency rooms and refuse to pay for medical services received.

* Force medical facilities into bankruptcy, resulting in the loss of vital medical services for American citizens.

* Manage to send $30-40 billion a year back to Mexico while dumping their medical bills on the backs on U.S. taxpayers..

* Refuse to learn English, and demand that America provide services in Spanish at considerable cost to American citizens.

* Impede the education of American children because of language and cultural issues.

* Demand driver’s licenses despite being in America illegally, and demand that driver instruction and testing materials be in Spanish.

* Demand reduced tuition rates offered to American students here legally.

* Vote in U.S. elections and alter election results.

* Overwhelm America’s penal system, making it impossible to deal effectively with the citizen inmate population.

* Engage in wholesale forgery of vital public documents and commit identity theft in order to secure employment, education, credit, and access to public services.

* Take to the streets to protest pending legislation that would tighten border security and enforce the nation’s immigration laws

* Wave the Mexican flag and scream “Yes, we can!” and “We are America” in Spanish as they march to protest the rule of law in America

* Cry “racism” every time they are criticized for being in America illegally or challenged to learn English and assimilate into American society.

In other words, this corrupt bunch of third-world banditos is under the misguided notion that America has no sovereign rights or borders, and that our great nation should be open to every Mexican peasant that decides unilaterally to squat in America.

And the government of Mexico has violated the sovereignty and borders of America by encouraging millions of illiterate peasants to invade America.

Again, the unanswered question: Why does U.S. President George W. Bush consistently side with Mexico and illegal aliens, instead of fighting on behalf of Americans?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; democratvoters; deportation; enforcement; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; newvoters
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Most distressing is Bush’s assertion that deportation of millions of illegal aliens is “impossible.”

He's working on his 'legacy.' And that is: increasing the ranks of Democrat voters.

1 posted on 07/14/2007 4:59:36 AM PDT by GFritsch
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To: GFritsch

No hay nada ver aquí, para andar por.

2 posted on 07/14/2007 5:03:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: GFritsch
'Why Is It Impossible To Deport Illegal Aliens, Mr. President?'

Simple answer, you have to WANT to!

3 posted on 07/14/2007 5:06:24 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Diogenesis

“We got da stinking baadges.”
But........
“We no a-gonna do the work!”
Now—whaa chooo gonna do?


4 posted on 07/14/2007 5:11:21 AM PDT by Flintlock
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To: GFritsch
Her is just one law Mr. President you can ensure is enforced:

Excerpts from the U.S. legal code referring to hiring illegal aliens.*

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens Enforcement RICO —Citizen Recourse Tax Crimes Comment

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

"Any person who . . . encourages or induces an illegal alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each illegal alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he: assists an illegal alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an illegal alien for a fee, knowing the illegal alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an illegal alien knowing that the illegal alien is unauthorized to work.

It is unlawful to hire any individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days' advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. "Day laborers" or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the illegal alien labor.

The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer's work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual's accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

It is illegal for nonprofit or religious organizations to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, regardless of claims that their convictions require them to assist illegal aliens. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any illegal alien who is in the United States in violation of law. Harboring means any conduct that tends to substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien's illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien's entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that "encouraging" includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years' imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years' imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the illegal alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years' imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer's consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In addition to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

Comment:

A comment and a published quote by Robert Gaffney, Attorney and County Executive of Suffolk County, LI, NY:

The statutory foundation of United States immigration law has always been the jurisdiction of the federal government, Congress and the federal courts. The preeminent laws concerning the employment of illegal aliens are found in the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. §~ 1101-1503), as amended by the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 CIRCA).

The law states it is a crime to assist an illegal alien who lacks employment authorization by referring him to an employer, or by acting as his or her employer, or as an agent for an employer. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(1)(A) (Lexis 1997). Furthermore, it is unlawful to hire an individual for employment without complying with the employment eligibility requirements for every person hired. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(l)(B) (Lexis 1997). Moreover, conduct tending substantially to facilitate illegal aliens remaining in the United States illegally, where there is knowledge or a reckless disregard of an illegal alien s unlawful status, is a crime, with escalating penalties, encompassed within the provisions of 1324. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324(a)(l)(A)(iii) (Lexis 1997); United States v. Kim. 193 F-3d 567 (2d Cir. 1999), are considered employees for purposes of immigration law.
5 posted on 07/14/2007 5:19:04 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Flintlock
The Del Rio, Texas district is now enforcing the current laws. Guess what - it’s working! Local law enforcement, Border Patrol and Judicial are working together within current laws and there is a marked improvement. The illegal crossing of the Rio Grand has dropped almost to zero.
6 posted on 07/14/2007 5:23:25 AM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: Man50D

"Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A)
says, "Any person who . . . encourages or induces an illegal alien to . . . reside . . . knowing
or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided
. . . for each illegal alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . .
imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
" Who cares? WE are above all law."

7 posted on 07/14/2007 5:24:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: GFritsch

I understand that California is now, as a whole, 45% white. There alone is the reason to teach spanish to everyone. BTW, we have a lovely 2,200 sq ft home in Wynne, Arkansas for sale. Perfect for a California retiree/refugee at $180,000. Corner lot, landscaped, fenced, outbuilding... Maybe just the place for one of the families belonging to the California 45%. I left California for Arkansas almost forty years ago and am soooo happy I did. Great retirement place.


8 posted on 07/14/2007 5:25:44 AM PDT by toomuchcoffee
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To: GFritsch

Illegal aliens are self-deporting from Georgia. Watch this Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxe1WO27B_I


10 posted on 07/14/2007 5:28:45 AM PDT by Buffettfan (3rd Battalion, 6th Marines - 1971 - 1974)
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To: outdriving
Mexico is aiding, abetting, and encouraging an invasion of the USA

"As a Mexican citizen, I couldn't care less. Para andar por. "

11 posted on 07/14/2007 5:31:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Man50D
Apparently, and I say this through the eyes of one that has been following this for many years, the administrations that have let this issue go on unheeded have an agenda that is not "from the consent of the governed."

Might I remind those government and Whit House lurkers that the phrase "from the consent of the governed" comes from the Declaration of Independence, a document which resulted in an intercontinental war.

Just a FYI…

12 posted on 07/14/2007 5:45:01 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: outdriving

What again... Folks we have a history revisionist here... Your Beloved Reagan who you so casually left out of your list was the last President to authorized (FULL AMNESTY) i.e., citizenship to the 10 million illegals that were here in the 1980’s. His efforts exacerbated the situation so hold him accountable also.


13 posted on 07/14/2007 5:47:00 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Conservatives that use emotion to hype issues without relying on facts are just as bad as Liberals .)
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To: outdriving
"Many countries, including this one, have gone to war for far less than what Mexico is doing to this country.

Mexico is aiding, abetting, and encouraging an invasion of the USA. Bush not only knows this, he’s doing his best to help. All in the name of a North American Union."

... kind of a coincidence that while we're beind invaded, our troops are otherwise occupied in a civil war half-way around the world ...

14 posted on 07/14/2007 5:49:26 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: tomnbeverly
"and the rest"

I believe that covers the outburst.

15 posted on 07/14/2007 5:53:52 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: GFritsch
And now we must add the ELITES – and elite wannabes -- in the Senate de Estados Unitos to the list of those who have sold out our formerly sacred birthright.

As early as 10 years ago, when he was my representative, I was a regular at Newt’s Town Hall Meetings where I spoke in support of the FairTax. 70% or more of the others who took the mike were visibly ANGRY ABOUT THE FAILURE TO STOP THE GROWING FLOW OF ILLEGALS! (At several sessions, Newt suggested the 100,000 IRS agents be given weapons and sent down to the border with Mexico.)

Under Bush, that flow became a TORRENT!

I attempted to phone Isakson’s and Chambliss’ Senate offices on 5-21-07. In both cases, my call was dumped into a voice mailbox – where a cheery female voice informed me “The mailbox is full.”

They CLEARLY don’t care WHAT we think!

DO TRY TO GET THAT MEMORY OVER THE TRADITIONAL 20 NANOSECOND LEVEL AND HOLD THE THOUGHT THROUGH NOVEMBER ’08!

Newt Gingrich sent out an email on 5-21 which stated the following:

”The announcement last week that the White House and a group of senators have reached an agreement on "comprehensive immigration reform" should have the same effect that the word "iceberg" had on the passengers and crew of the Titanic. This proposed agreement is a disaster of the first order, and it will severely cripple America for the foreseeable future.

”You can tell how bad this bill is by the Senate Democratic leadership's announced goal of trying to pass it before the Memorial Day weekend.” Newt Gingrich

Duncan Hunter was on Larry King the other night. The somewhat hostile King showed a clip of Arlen "Magic Bullet" Specter bloviating on the Senate floor that it was not possible to "round up" all the illegals and deport them.

Hunter countered by saying that when a city in Colorado imposed REAL penalties on the magnet employers who were drawing the criminal invaders there, the invaders LEFT when the jobs dried up.

Some went to more “hospitable” locales. Many returned to Mexico.

That 5 pound Shamnisty bill they just voted could be cut to one paragraph calling for NATIONAL enforcement – with meaningful penalties – of that provision.

Sure works for me.

In ABSTRACT terms, this is the conspiratorial view of what’s going on vis-à-vis the INVASION of the illegals here:

The current alien invasion from the south serves BOTH the elites who run Mexico – and many of the OTHER states of Central and South America -- and the political ruling class who increasingly run the United States:

· It takes pressure off the 60 or so families who control approximately 80% of the wealth in Mexico. Without the northern “safety valve” (the United States) for their poor, those poor MIGHT be inclined to do what America’s early colonists found it necessary to do: Revolt! Parenthetically, that would be MY suggestion for them: Instead of fleeing here – and converting “here” to a larger, more poverty infested version of “there,” they ought to stay there and make “there” into their version of “here,” whatever that would be. Revolutions ARE messy and there are no guarantees that they will produce the desired result. But – according to one T. Jefferson – they are often necessary. Never forget that THIS country was born in revolution!

· For the NAFTA/CAFTA coveting US national ruling class – especially those who, in varying degrees, quest after some sort of One-World utopia run by guess who? – it provides yet another level of insecurity and tension among the indigenous populace which can be used to justify new and more draconian limits to freedom here. Instead of securing the borders, allow millions of illegals to come in and when the natives become alarmed, require a national ID card. “Your papers, please!” will soon become a phrase familiar to all. It’s Mr. Franklin’s trade of freedom for (false) security. It’s also the time-tested Hegelian Dialectic the One-Worlders have successfully worked like a rented mule.

While they occasionally squabble among themselves, the elites of history have ALL had one thing in common: They will do ANYTHING to remain in charge. And throughout that history, except for the 230 year-old experiment in freedom called “America,” most of the men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves to these elites whether they call themselves kings, emperors, potentates, sultans, czars – or presidents.

Get ready, folks. Unless some SERIOUS changes are made and the handful of Americans who CARE about liberty get involved, that history will almost certainly repeat here.

Now for the SPECIFICS of the matter:

My take on Bush's role in all of this is:

1. His long and apparently positive experience with the large hispanic population in Texas is largely responsible for his inaction on this alien invasion. And why wouldn't HIS experience with them be positive as he traveled in the highest, best-educated circles among them, not the Hispanic gangbangers and pine-straw spreaders...

2. His brother Jeb is married to a native of Mexico and his nieces and nephews are mixed blood. And before you scream "ethnocentric bigot" at me, there's nothing inherently wrong with that. But that fact -- and the first item -- DOES predispose him to a warm and fuzzy feeling for folks from south of the Rio Grande.

And if -- in some strange and metastasizing American desire for a new royal family dynasty -- Jeb or his son should win the White House in some future presidential beauty contest designed to divert the American electorate every four years, I'd bet that HIS activities toward this alien invasion will make W's behavior look like a warm-up exercise.

Any vestige of Western European culture will be a distant memory.

16 posted on 07/14/2007 6:06:36 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: tomnbeverly

What is your source for the 10 million figure?


17 posted on 07/14/2007 6:06:38 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: tomnbeverly
Your beloved Reagan....?

Wasn't he your President too?....

18 posted on 07/14/2007 6:15:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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To: GFritsch

There seems to be a paralyzing belief that “if we can’t deport all of them simultaneously, we can’t deport any of them”.

To suddenly clear out what may be as much as five or six percent of out total population at one fell swoop, would be phyusically impossible. But to discourage the presence by making housing, income-producing opportunities, and means of transportation very difficult if not impossible for “undocumented” immigrants, would do a lot to first bring them out into the open, and once in the open, assure they are conducted to the border. A border which shall remain closed to them until they return with the right documentation, and not some faked-up cockamamie “papers” purchased in a back alley somewhere.

Several things on which the current Administration seems reluctant to implement the necessary commands.


19 posted on 07/14/2007 6:23:04 AM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
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To: savedbygrace

http://journals.aol.com/stebrel/MoralityandtheLaw/entries/2007/05/20/illegal-immigration/1534

“More than 10 million applications were filed.”


20 posted on 07/14/2007 6:25:39 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Conservatives that use emotion to hype issues without relying on facts are just as bad as Liberals .)
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