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Sen. John Warner seeks shift on Iraq
Richmond times dispatch ^

Posted on 07/14/2007 5:46:43 AM PDT by VaRepublican

Virginia senator joins with Indiana's Lugar on proposal to narrow troops' mission

(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 110th; handwringers; iraq; johnwarner; rinos
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1 posted on 07/14/2007 5:46:47 AM PDT by VaRepublican
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To: VaRepublican

I do not understand his position. If he does run again I hope Allen challenges him.


2 posted on 07/14/2007 5:48:19 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate tag lines but I don't know how...)
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To: VaRepublican

Allen should announce RIGHT NOW for Warner’s seat. He will probably be running against Mark Warner for it. John Warner won’t run again - too old.


3 posted on 07/14/2007 5:51:58 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: VaRepublican

Warner has been selling out to the Libs ever since he put up a washed up former Republican attorney General, to run as an independent and draw enough votes to ensure Chuck Rob beat Ollie North.


4 posted on 07/14/2007 5:59:15 AM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: VaRepublican
John Warner is a creep, coward, lowlife. Mark Levin described some of his dastardly deeds from the past yesterday. I remembered one of them - when Ollie North was running for the Senate - Warner convinced some Repub to run in also - splitting the Repub vote. Ollie would have won. What a difference it would have made to have Ollie in office - then George Allen could have run against Warner and the blowhard would have been replaced. What a difference in our NATION it would have been to have Ollie and Allen as Va Senators!

Come on, Virginia! We need George Allen IN and Warner OUT as soon as possible.

5 posted on 07/14/2007 6:00:11 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: VaRepublican

So...another RINO, eh? This is getting sad. And of course, the MSM is relishing all of this, describing it as a “revolt,” a “groundswell of opposition to the President’s hardline stance,” a “potential mass exodus” and similar hyperbole.


6 posted on 07/14/2007 6:29:20 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger
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To: RepublitarianRoger

hyperbole that many will believe on their first hearing, and hyperbole that will be repeated until most of the rest begin to submit to it as well.


7 posted on 07/14/2007 6:36:03 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: VaRepublican

When the congressional pukes of the 1970s denied military aid to any and all non-communist forces in Southeast Asia, they could be partially forgiven for not knowing in advance of the coming holocaust in Cambodia.

Today’s congressional pukes will have no such excuse.


8 posted on 07/14/2007 7:14:39 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: VaRepublican

Two more excellent arguments for term limits.


9 posted on 07/14/2007 7:27:20 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: VaRepublican

I voted for North over Liz’s ex. This weak politician must go, now.


10 posted on 07/14/2007 7:28:58 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: gathersnomoss

Ooops, my bad. It was North that ran against Chuck Rob.


11 posted on 07/14/2007 7:29:58 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: VaRepublican
Ahhh, the dishonorable bin Warner.
12 posted on 07/14/2007 7:30:17 AM PDT by gulfcoast6 (Tis a day the Lord hath made!)
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To: VaRepublican
The Warner-Lugar position can be summed up as: "Keep the troops there, but make sure they don't win".

These people are the elites, but I can't figure out what they're the elite of.

13 posted on 07/14/2007 8:46:33 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Just my novelist's imagination running wild, but what if Warner was discovered by kingmaker Eastern Establishment forces when he was married to a Mellon heiress. Then when that marriage ended, the rich kingmakers he had met still liked him enough to help arrange a marriage that would bring him some publicity. Being married to Liz Taylor brings you into the public spotlight.

Then a solid conservative candidate dies in a plane crash and the party is looking for someone to run. Voila, John Warner becomes an establishment candidate for Senate. No. I am not implying any foul play in the plane crash -- if you fly around enough in small planes, particularly over mountains, you run a substantial risk of having a plane crash.

Some of these marriages among the elite change the political landscape as much as marriages between royalty used to do. Think of the power shift that occurred between John Heinz and John Kerry. One day, Bonesman John Heinz is a fairly high-profile Republican Senator. Then a plane crash occurs, and pretty soon his wife is married to a high-profile Bonesman and Democrat Senator John Kerry, and Heinz's kids are volunteering on the Kerry campaign.

These facts are so plain and out-in-the open that there is no reason to use words like conspiracy. They are simply historical reality, and not necessarily bad. I am sure that I would personally like and respect some of the kingmakers and behind-the-scenes liasons and operatives who work for them ("manipulators" if you don't like them) who make things happen and change the course of history.

I wrote a novel called "The Figurehead" available on Amazon if you like this sort of stuff.

14 posted on 07/14/2007 8:58:29 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: gulfcoast6

Elizabeth Taylor (no genius she) married Warner and among other things called him less animated than a wooden Indian, and “the dumbest man I ever met.” All things considered, Elizabeth is smarter than the average Virginia voter.


15 posted on 07/14/2007 9:05:03 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Montfort
I should have mentioned that "Montfort" is both my screen name and the name of the protagonist of my novel. I just did a google search using

"the figurehead" montfort

And my novel was the first result. I have had this screen name for so many years, it shows how many years I worked on this novel. Ridiculous waste of time, because the real money was in my technical training books.

16 posted on 07/14/2007 9:05:17 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: VaRepublican

Warner has been the Middleburg, VA Senator and nothing more.


18 posted on 07/14/2007 9:07:38 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: VaRepublican
John Warner can't carry the load!
19 posted on 07/14/2007 10:18:04 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
OK thats funny!
20 posted on 07/14/2007 12:41:40 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate tag lines but I don't know how...)
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