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To: Coyoteman

Coyoteman!

I’ll finish our other thread, promise!

Here’s a list of how evolution and the Bible are in contradiction:

Bible: God is the creator of all things. (Genesis 1)

Evolution: Natural chance processes can account for the existence of all things.

Bible: World created as is in six literal days. (Genesis 1)

Evolution: World evolved over billions of years.

Bible: Creation is completed. (Genesis 2:3)

Evolution: Creative processes continuing.

Bible: Oceans before land. (Genesis 1:2)

Evolution: Land before oceans.

Bible: First life on land. (Genesis 1:11)

Evolution: Life began in the oceans.

Bible: First life was land plants. (Genesis 1:11)

Evolution: Marine organisms evolved first.

Bible: Earth before sun and stars. (Genesis 1:14-19)

Evolution: Sun and stars before earth.

Bible: Fruit trees before fish. (Genesis 1:11,20,21)

Evolution: Fish before fruit trees.

Bible: All stars made on fourth day. (Genesis 1:16)

Evolution: Stars evolved at various times.

Bible: Birds and fish created on the fifth day. (Genesis 1:20-21)

Evolution: Fish evolved hundreds of millions of years before birds.

Bible: Birds before insects. (Genesis 1:20-31, Leviticus 11)

Evolution: Insects before birds.

Bible: Whales before reptiles. (Genesis 1:20-31)

Evolution: Reptiles before whales.

Bible: Birds before reptiles. (Genesis 1:20-31)

Evolution: Reptiles before birds.

Bible: Light before the sun. (Genesis 1:3-9)

Evolution: Sun before any light.

Bible: Plants before the sun. (Genesis 1:11-19)

Evolution: Sun before any plants.

Bible: Abundance and variety of marine life all at once. (Genesis 1:20)

Evolution: Marine life gradually developed from a primitive organic soup.

Bible: Man’s body from the dust of the earth. (Genesis 2:7)

Evolution: Man and monkey have a common ancestor.

Bible: Man exercised dominion over all organisms. (Genesis 1:28)

Evolution: Many organisms extinct before man evolved.

Bible: Man originally a vegetarian. (Genesis 1:29)

Evolution: Man originally a meat-eater.

Bible: Fixed and distinct kinds of life (Genesis 1:11,12,21,24,25)

Evolution: All life is in a continual state of change.

Bible: Death caused by Eve and Adam eating the forbidden fruit. (Genesis 2:17)

Evolution: Death existed long before the evolution of man.


18 posted on 07/14/2007 11:22:38 AM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution...only for a [Christian] people...it is wholly inadequate for any other.-J.Q.Adams)
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To: ROTB
Your long list of areas where science and the bible are in conflict is interesting, but I don't see your purpose.

Are you trying to say that the bible is right in all of these cases, or are you admitting that it is often wrong?

21 posted on 07/14/2007 11:28:01 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: ROTB

Wow, your long list of contradictions between the Bible and evolution is quite compelling. How anyone can look at those contradictions and still believe in the Bible is amazing. Yet apparently some people still do. It’s sad, isn’t it?


247 posted on 07/14/2007 9:40:58 PM PDT by BuckeyeForever
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To: ROTB

Truth BUMP


258 posted on 07/14/2007 10:19:47 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: ROTB
Alright as one of those who believe the Bible was the inspired Word of God, and also think evolution probably happened, I suppose I will need to defend my position.

Bible: God is the creator of all things. (Genesis 1)

Evolution: Natural chance processes can account for the existence of all things.

Evolution does not say this, although Naturalism does.

Bible: World created as is in six literal days. (Genesis 1)

I don't see why it is necessarily literal, the early narratives of Genesis seem to be pretty metaphorical to me.

Evolution: World evolved over billions of years.

Well there is a lot of astrological evidence that suggests a very old world. Seemingly if God created the Universe in six literal days He took pains to make it look older.

Bible: Creation is completed. (Genesis 2:3)

Evolution: Creative processes continuing.

The verse simply says He rested from all the work He had done. It does not say anything about forswearing future creative processes. The Revelation of John strongly suggests otherwise, besides this is the day the Lord has made, how about rejoicing and being glad in it?

Bible: Oceans before land. (Genesis 1:2)

Evolution: Land before oceans.

I'm not sure how evolution requires land before oceans. Seems like a question for Geography.

Bible: First life on land. (Genesis 1:11)

Evolution: Life began in the oceans.

Bible: First life was land plants. (Genesis 1:11)

Evolution: Marine organisms evolved first.

The order mentioned in the initial narrative in Genesis is: 1) land plants 2) water animals 3) land animals. It seems water plants were not mentioned in this account. If we put them before land plants then the orders are rectified.

Bible: Earth before sun and stars. (Genesis 1:14-19)

Evolution: Sun and stars before earth.

Evolution aside, the science of astronomy seems to suggest an earth before the sun and stars is absurd. While reading the specific passage it does however seem to be written from the perspective of an observer on the Earth: "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night..." (NIV). I would note that until the Earth existed no such perspective would be possible, even if the stars and sun had already existed.

...I'm skipping down some for brevity...

Evolution: Man originally a meat-eater.

Really? I thought most anthropologists had us pegged as originally vegetarian.

Bible: Death caused by Eve and Adam eating the forbidden fruit. (Genesis 2:17)

Evolution: Death existed long before the evolution of man.

Death was seemingly avoided only by eating the fruit of the Tree of Life, which was available to Adam and Eve, but not necessarily to any other form of life. Also, it seemed Adam and Eve knew what death was when God and then the serpent mentioned it (which I don't think was literally a serpent, but actually Satan--how about you?). Presumably then, other forms of life could die at the time.

287 posted on 07/15/2007 4:36:46 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: ROTB

TOE circling the drain BUMP


486 posted on 07/17/2007 2:06:38 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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