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Bikers are older, but not always wiser
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | July 14, 2007 | ANNYSA JOHNSON

Posted on 07/15/2007 7:30:18 AM PDT by BraveMan

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To: ichabod1

There have been 5 riders killed locally that were all at least friends of friends.

Only one was hot dogging but it was still a left turning cager who killed her.

I ride about 2000 miles a month, half of that commuting. I have to stay vigilant because cagers attitudes vary from apathetic to hostile.

But we all make our choices and have to realize we assume some risks.

But I refuse to blame the victim.


21 posted on 07/15/2007 8:01:32 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (...and one mediator between man and God, the man Christ Jesus. Not Peter, Paul, or Mary.)
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To: BraveMan

I agree that car drivers are a big part of the problem.

The “blue-haired old lady in a Buick” is not just a silly stereotype, but a deadly menace on the road. There are others, of course (cell phone users come to mind).


22 posted on 07/15/2007 8:01:42 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: JoeSixPack1
2X2 Bump (2 Wheels 2 drinks)

Sage advice, my FRiend. Many riders (if not most) don't realize just how much even slight alcohol impairment negatively affects your ability to maintain control of a motorcycle.
23 posted on 07/15/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Dutch Boy
I’m not sure if this is a nation wide trend but where I live there are a large number of people 40 or older that are new bike riders.

BINGO! I ride extremely fast sport bikes and always break with one finger. I do that puposely to avoid a full squeeze when surprised and having the front wheel go out. Now of course you can't use this technique on a Harley, where one finger will do nothing...

24 posted on 07/15/2007 8:03:30 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: JoeSixPack1
2X2 Bump (2 Wheels 2 drinks)

So do 18 wheelers have to pack a keg? :)

25 posted on 07/15/2007 8:05:39 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: elcid1970

One of the recent local bike fatalities was a guy in a pickup who turned left in front of the cyclist.

The reports indicated that the helmet made no difference.

Many times we read that the biker wasn’t wearing a helmet but many times it wouldn’t have made a difference anyway. But the stats don’t usually account for that. It just goes down as another biker died because he wasn’t wearing a helmet.

Not another biker killed because of a careless driver.


26 posted on 07/15/2007 8:06:48 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (...and one mediator between man and God, the man Christ Jesus. Not Peter, Paul, or Mary.)
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To: Eagle Eye
I have to stay vigilant because cagers attitudes vary from apathetic to hostile.

I ALWAYS assume they will do something stupid and am thinking defensively to the max.

27 posted on 07/15/2007 8:07:08 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Disambiguator
The “blue-haired old lady in a Buick” is not just a silly stereotype, but a deadly menace on the road.

A coworker was hit by one of those. He was at a stop light. She was turning left and clipped his front tire. He was out of work for months. She reportedly said, "I didn't see him".

Cellphone yackers are a hazard to everyone.

28 posted on 07/15/2007 8:07:14 AM PDT by csvset
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To: BraveMan

Damned if I don’t turn into Evel Knevel when I drink and ride! Lane splitting at midnight...yikes!

That’s why I don’t do it anymore.

Or do it much :>

2x2 works for me.


29 posted on 07/15/2007 8:10:05 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Size matters. Unless you got more than me.)
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To: AmericaUnited

No keg, ‘cause they might have to pee in a bottle at the next weigh station, lose their job and/or get locked up!

Commercial driving is a whole other ballgame.


30 posted on 07/15/2007 8:10:24 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Think not of today.)
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To: AmericaUnited

Depends on which finger.


31 posted on 07/15/2007 8:11:20 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Size matters. Unless you got more than me.)
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To: BraveMan

There’s always the Indian Larry Rider Safety Course Graduates to watch out for also. :-)


32 posted on 07/15/2007 8:13:12 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Think not of today.)
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To: Lizavetta
Perhaps I'm in the minority but I'm a firm believer that if you didn't grow up on motorcycles you have no business riding them as an adult.

I might paraphrase that somewhat but am with you in spirit/intent. Proud to say I grew up with them and have, like many in my age bunch, been riding accident-free for over 50 years. The secret is assuming you're invisible to all, keeping your bike well-maintained and never outdrive your headlights, eyesight or skill. Also, don't drink and drive.

33 posted on 07/15/2007 8:15:11 AM PDT by pt17
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To: BraveMan

Idaho is a good place to be if you need a kidney transplant. You see, there is no helmet law here and there are lots of people riding donorcycles without one. Only have to wait a year for a nice, fresh kidney since its former owner wrecked his bike.

I work in emergency medicine. If everyone rode donorcycles it would be a fair fight on the roads. Not everyone does, however, and I refuse to get into a road fight with something larger, helmet or not. Even riders who wear helmets suffer some of the most gruesome injuries imaginable.

The human body will suffer injury when it impacts anything at greater than 3mph. Greater velocity = greater injury. Think about that.


34 posted on 07/15/2007 8:16:59 AM PDT by 43north (I hope we are around long enough to become a layer in the rocks of the future.)
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To: csvset

I work on a military base that requires ‘light or bright colors and/or reflective material’ to ride on base.

I like to commute in a bright yellow long sleeve shirt and during the dark winter months I wear an ANSI approved reflective vest.

There’s reflective tape on my helmet and I’m toying with the idea of mast mounted strobes for the pre-dawn and post sunset commutes.

No, I haven’t considered NOT riding...LOL.


35 posted on 07/15/2007 8:19:41 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Size matters. Unless you got more than me.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Ohhhh, that's cold . . .


36 posted on 07/15/2007 8:21:44 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan
Ohhhh, that's cold . .
Yep, and so is Indian Larry

Rest In Peace Indian Larry

37 posted on 07/15/2007 8:25:51 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Think not of today.)
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To: Larry Lucido

NO ONE ever intends to crash or get hurt thus the term “accident” of course but IMHO inexperience is key.......know what can and will happen if you push the press to test button on ANYTHING including an old strata blue 1998 Harley Fat Boy !

Never rely on others to follow the rules of the road, posted stop /yield signs etc ......... and look at everything as the potential hazard it is.

I wear leathers, gloves, helmet etc when I get time to ride but that is my choice. I experienced road rash at an early age and learned what it is and in my older age I am a safety poster boy due the simple fact I don’t heal up as fast as I used too !

I peeked at Exiles (Russell’s) new Trike the other day 60K with paint and 45k without paint. Think I’m gonna save 15k and get 20$ worth of Krylon Black and finish my life riding on 3 wheels just like I did as a two year old on my old tricycle......:o)


38 posted on 07/15/2007 8:25:54 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: BraveMan

I always get a kick out of mototcycle cops handing out no-seatbelt tickets.


39 posted on 07/15/2007 8:27:59 AM PDT by umgud ("When illegals are banned, only greedy businesses and welfare providers will have them)
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To: BraveMan
My last bike was a 72 850 Norton. Miss the fun and the wind. I used to take my 8 year old boy for a ride, sitting on the tank.
Never crashed. Sold the bike in 87. An Australian guy bought it in the Twin cities and took it Down Under...
40 posted on 07/15/2007 8:28:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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