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After We Are Gone: If humans were evacuated, the Earth would flourish
Newsweek ^ | 7/14/7 | Jerry Adler

Posted on 07/16/2007 6:05:58 AM PDT by ZGuy

The Second Coming may be the most widely anticipated apocalypse ever, but Environmentalists have their own eschatology—a vision of a world not consumed by holy fire but returned to ecological balance by the removal of the most disruptive species in history. That, of course, would be us. There's even a group trying to bring it about, the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, whose Web site calls on people to stop having children altogether. And now the journalist Alan Weisman has produced "The World Without Us," which conjures up a future something like ... well, like the area around Chernobyl—just forests that have begun reclaiming fields and towns, home to birds, deer, wild boar and moose.

Weisman's intriguing thought experiment is to ask what would happen if the rest of the Earth was similarly evacuated—not by a nuclear holocaust or natural disaster, but by whisking people off in spaceships, or killing them with a virus that spares the rest of the biosphere. In a matter of days or weeks, nuclear power plants around the world would boil off their water and melt into vast radioactive lumps. Electrical power would fail, and with it the pumps keeping New York City's subways from flooding; in a few years Lexington Avenue would collapse and eventually turn into a river. Lightning-caused fires would blow out the windows in skyscrapers.

Much of the world would come to resemble ... well, the Korean demilitarized zone, where no one has set foot for more than half a century, now a mecca for Korean bird watchers.

Sound appealing? Well, it did to Weisman, too, when he began work on the book four years ago. And "four out of five" of the people he's told about it, he estimates, thought the idea sounded wonderful.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antihumanism; environmentalism; one; prolife; religiousleft
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1 posted on 07/16/2007 6:06:00 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

Without us, kudzu would take over the world and choke it to death.


2 posted on 07/16/2007 6:07:20 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: ZGuy
And "four out of five" of the people he's told about it, he estimates, thought the idea sounded wonderful.

I invite such people to do us all a favor and kill themselves.

3 posted on 07/16/2007 6:08:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: ZGuy
How would those crackpots know how the world would be withput man, they won’t be here to see it. Just more assumptions from a group of Morons.


4 posted on 07/16/2007 6:09:38 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Nabber

Looking at their website, I’ve seen that big V on the planet before. It involved aliens who wanted to eat us.
These folks are prrof that man is descended from lemmings
( 85% DNA compatability)


5 posted on 07/16/2007 6:10:15 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: ZGuy

When the Sun becomes a Red Giant, The entire Earth and everything on it will become nothing but burned, charred cinder. Everything that ever existed on it live or dead will be gone, and there is absolutely NOTHING that can stop it. Tell that to you enviro-whackos and make their day.


6 posted on 07/16/2007 6:12:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: ZGuy
...the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement,...

Sounds great!

You go first.

7 posted on 07/16/2007 6:12:37 AM PDT by HHFi
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To: ZGuy
So, when do these whining liberal Marxists enviro wackos going to kill themselves to save the earth. I suggest they all meet on the Capital Mall on Earth Day and commit mass suicide and start the depopulation of the earth off right. Put your life where your mouths are. Be the first ones on the block to have your cremated body sent back to dust for the sake of the earth. Do it. PLEASE!!!
8 posted on 07/16/2007 6:13:02 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Jorge Bush & his Marxist's Dim friends are enemies of the Republic with their amnesty Bill.)
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To: ZGuy

Self-loathing must be some kind of tenet in the environmentalists religion.


9 posted on 07/16/2007 6:13:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: All

I saw this movie, but I didn’t like the ending.


10 posted on 07/16/2007 6:13:30 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: darkwing104

It’s actually a pretty interesting book. Author’s politics aside, the book explores the ways in which humans constantly maintain urban environments. Without humans and our technology New York, for example, would be a radically different place...


11 posted on 07/16/2007 6:13:31 AM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: ZGuy
killing them with a virus that spares the rest of the biosphere

Didn't Tom Clancy write a novel based on this? I'd watch these guys. They're wacko enough to try this.

12 posted on 07/16/2007 6:14:51 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: ZGuy

I was wondering when the environmentalists would get to this point. A little sooner than I thought. I agree with earlier posters... You First, Environmentalists.


13 posted on 07/16/2007 6:15:31 AM PDT by Mach5
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To: RAPTURE
"Come up here..." (Rev 4:1)

14 posted on 07/16/2007 6:16:59 AM PDT by evets (Beer)
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To: ZGuy
This, says Weisman—who is 60, and childless after the death of his only daughter—would stabilize the human population by the end of the century at about 1.6 billion, approximately where it was in 1900.

The senile old fool needs some stabilizing of his own thought processes.

15 posted on 07/16/2007 6:17:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: ZGuy

I bet the idiot sits in AC while he writes too. Its not like he’s using his two feet to walk to the store to buy his toilet paper either.
What an idiot.


16 posted on 07/16/2007 6:17:36 AM PDT by Havok (I like meat, guns, and comic books. Am I a bad conservative?)
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To: ZGuy

Rainbow Six.


17 posted on 07/16/2007 6:19:15 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
You got rejected by eHarmony? How does that happen?
18 posted on 07/16/2007 6:21:27 AM PDT by Fawn
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To: neodad

That’s so “moonraker”...


19 posted on 07/16/2007 6:22:05 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Nabber

“Without us, kudzu would take over the world and choke it to death.”

In NH it is BITTERSWEET vine. When I moved in 12 years ago it was all over my property. I cut and spray CHEMICALS every year. ORTHO Brush BE GONE and Triox work best.

According to my 70 year old neighbor, the people across the road had a Christmas wreath they left on the door for 6 months, 30 years ago. The birds ate the berries and spread them throughout the neighborhood. We have been battling it ever since. It climbs up trees, or anything else, and eventually kills the tree.


20 posted on 07/16/2007 6:22:54 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Will_Zurmacht

I heard the book was fascinating and that the book is a straightforward examination of what would happen if all humans disappeared tomorrow. I only buy books once they’ve become available cheap and used online, but when this one does, I’m sufficiently intrigued to check it out.

The left’s obsession with destroying civilized society by stopping people from breeding isn’t anything new, but detailing the science and what would happen to our cities and which buildings would survive, etc, sounds interesting.


21 posted on 07/16/2007 6:22:54 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Well Fred’s got a 60-40 lead. I intend to change that -- pissant)
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To: ZGuy
If humans were evacuated, the Earth would flourish

I believe it would be more accurate to say, "If humans were extinct, the Earth would flourish." That seems closer to the premise of the book.

Either way, why should I care? As the last line of the article says, "Too bad there's no one there to see it."

Call me a speciesist, if you must. But I believe that the only reason that the Earth is of interest is because mankind lives here. (Moreover, I believe that God created the Earth expressly as a home for mankind.) Without intelligent beings to notice it, the Earth would be just another speck in the void, of no more significance than any other speck.

22 posted on 07/16/2007 6:23:02 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: ZGuy

Can those of us that stay behind to verify the transformation of the entire earth into the Korean Demilitarized zone get Carbon Credits for those that voluntarily extinguish themselves? (:^*)


23 posted on 07/16/2007 6:23:34 AM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: ZGuy

If they truly believe this, they’d just all go shoot themselves for earth’s benefit.


24 posted on 07/16/2007 6:24:36 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: ZGuy

I don’t think they realize what is going to happen in the next 50-60 years. In about half a century, the world will be at carrying capacity, and population will still be exploding. This is why any dream of “global government” or “worldwide community” is going to collapse by about 2080. Because once you run short of basic items necessary for survival, you see warfare rise.


25 posted on 07/16/2007 6:27:09 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: ClearCase_guy

My thoughts also.

If earth is so bad with humans, let’s start getting rid of them and see how the depopulation plan works.


26 posted on 07/16/2007 6:27:37 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: ZGuy

These guys should be watched


27 posted on 07/16/2007 6:28:02 AM PDT by benjibrowder (Mass voluntary genocide to "save Gaia", sounds great, you first. I'm not drinking the koolaid.)
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To: ZGuy

The earth is only “sick” in their heads.


28 posted on 07/16/2007 6:29:31 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
I don’t think they realize what is going to happen in the next 50-60 years. In about half a century, the world will be at carrying capacity, and population will still be exploding. This is why any dream of “global government” or “worldwide community” is going to collapse by about 2080. Because once you run short of basic items necessary for survival, you see warfare rise.

Interesting post, but I would question a couple of your assumptions. First, how do you calculate the "carrying capacity" of the earth? Second, what makes you think that the human population "will still be exploding" in 50 years?

29 posted on 07/16/2007 6:31:40 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile

Precisely the point, their world view is flawed. They do not value life because do not believe God.


30 posted on 07/16/2007 6:34:58 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Fawn

I think it’s my attitude.


31 posted on 07/16/2007 6:37:58 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (eHarmony reject)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

“They do not value life because they do not believe in God.”

Excellently said. Is not God the Font of all life?


32 posted on 07/16/2007 6:40:23 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: ClearCase_guy
Self-hate at its worst!
33 posted on 07/16/2007 6:41:05 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Nabber

lol... there’s kudzu eating a truck by my house.


34 posted on 07/16/2007 6:41:47 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: BipolarBob

You’ve won tagline of the day!


35 posted on 07/16/2007 6:43:24 AM PDT by Hacklehead (God, Guns, Guts and Greenhouse Gas Emissions Made America Great)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"Self-loathing must be some kind of tenet in the environmentalists religion."

It must be, for them to forget that we're as much a part of God's creation as the grass and trees.

36 posted on 07/16/2007 6:43:37 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Havok
I bet the idiot sits in AC while he writes too. Its not like he’s using his two feet to walk to the store to buy his toilet paper either.

Why would he need toilet paper? His sh** smells like roses!

37 posted on 07/16/2007 6:44:43 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Red Badger

That’s not necessarily true. No matter what happens to the earth bacteria will probably keep on trucking as they always have. They can survive in 120C and in ice on the poles so I doubt even the sun collapsing can get rid of them.

Humans I don’t know. Dinosaurs were one of the longest lived groups in the history of the earth and they only lasted 200 million years. So we’ll probably be long gone before the sun blows up, voluntary extinction or no.


38 posted on 07/16/2007 6:45:05 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: Will_Zurmacht
It would turn into a planet of the apes...


39 posted on 07/16/2007 6:45:37 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: ZGuy

Well Jerry, put your money where your mouth is. (Or in this case, put your gun where your mouth is)


40 posted on 07/16/2007 6:45:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Logophile

“There are hidden contradictions within the minds of people who “love nature” while deploring the “artificialities” with which “Man has spoiled ‘Nature.’” The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part of “Nature”—but beavers and their dams are.

But the contradictions go deeper than this prima-facie absurdity. In declaring his love for a beaver dam (erected by beavers for beaver’s purposes) and his hatred for dams erected by men (for the purpose of men) the “Naturist” reveals his hatred for his own race—i.e., his own self-hatred. In the case of “Naturists” such self—hatred is understandable; they are such a sorry lot. But hatred is too strong an emotion to feel toward them; pity and contempt are the most they rate.

As for me, willy-nilly I am a man, not a beaver, and H. Sapiens is the only race I have or can have. Fortunately for me, I like being part of a race made up of men and women— it strikes me as a fine arrangement and perfectly “natural.” Believe it or not, there were “Naturists” who opposed the first flight to old Earth’s Moon as being “unnatural” and a “despoiling of nature.”

Robert Heinlein


41 posted on 07/16/2007 6:48:28 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
I don’t think they realize what is going to happen in the next 50-60 years. In about half a century, the world will be at carrying capacity, and population will still be exploding. This is why any dream of “global government” or “worldwide community” is going to collapse by about 2080. Because once you run short of basic items necessary for survival, you see warfare rise.
You never know. By killing all the whales and pumping the ocean full of sewage we've created a world where squid and clams are quickly taking up the same, if not more biomass than the previous critters. I hope you like Calamari though...
42 posted on 07/16/2007 6:48:56 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: ZGuy

Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time, for y’all have knocked her up.


43 posted on 07/16/2007 6:48:57 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: RetiredArmy

I like your idea, and I think it would be great on pay per view.


44 posted on 07/16/2007 6:49:43 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: ZGuy
whose Web site calls on people to stop having children altogether.

Everybody stops having children at one point or another.

45 posted on 07/16/2007 6:50:45 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: neodad

Yup — “Rainbow Six.” Envirowhackos tried to kill off 99% of the pop with a modified ebola.


46 posted on 07/16/2007 6:51:01 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: ZGuy

Well, it’s their idea and the 4 out 5 people they talked to agreed; so why don’t they take themselves off the earth.

Oh, I forgot, they would the caretakers. sarcasm off.


47 posted on 07/16/2007 6:51:15 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: ketsu

Mercury, Venus, Earth, and possibly Mars will cease to exist. Unless bacteria can survive total immersion into the Sun's corona, I doubt they'll be around........ http://news.softpedia.com/news/What-Will-Happen-When-the-Sun-Will-Die-36181.shtml

48 posted on 07/16/2007 6:53:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: HHFi

"We are the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement Crack Suicide Squad. Suicide Squad, ATTACK!!!"

49 posted on 07/16/2007 6:53:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: ZGuy

If humans are gone, why should I care if the earth has thriving plant and animal life? It will be a wasted planet, good for nothing more than biology experiments for Xenu.


50 posted on 07/16/2007 6:54:05 AM PDT by Junior_G
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